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On the Lemmy.ml posting warning (piefed.social)
submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by cabbage@piefed.social to c/piefed_meta@piefed.social
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I noticed responding to posts in communities hosted at lemmy.ml gives the following warning:

This post is hosted on lemmy.ml which will ban you for saying anything negative about China, Russia or Putin. Tread carefully.

While I see where this is coming from and I agree with the general sentiment, I'm not sure it's a great idea to include such a message. I basically read it as an invitation to be off-topic and to derail conversations in order to annoy the admins. While it comes from a point of good intentions, it can be disheartening for the people running communities on Lemmy.ml to receive comments about Russia from users basically trying to get banned, in communities that has nothing to do with this issue.

It's unfortunate, but a lot of valuable older communities are still hosted on lemmy.ml, and I think PieFed users should be encouraged to be constructive and on-topic users there as they should be everywhere else.

An alternative suggestion: Maybe it could be useful to remind people which community they are posting in? Like, "This community is dedicated to renewable energy. Please keep this in mind when contributing to the discussion". Then again, that would be a mess to implement in a good way.

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago

Is this a piefed feature? To add warnings about other instances?

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago

It's an experimental feature. If you post on Beehaw it shows a reminder that Beehaw has a stricter code of conduct than most instances, and remind you to be nice.

PieFed is also developed specifically to be unappealing to tankies and fascists, which I think is generally wise, but of course certain measures might be more successful than others. :)

[-] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

PieFed is also developed specifically to be unappealing to tankies and fascists,

I like you

[-] rimu@piefed.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah.

Often people will not be aware of the rules a community has (they don't read the sidebar or are on mobile where there sidebar is hard to find) OR, as in the case of worldnews@lemmy.ml, the rules are written deceptively and there are many unwritten rules. Having an additional message that is front and center above the 'compose a comment' input field is an attempt to deal with that.

We need alternatives to defederation which is too extreme and total. Mastodon has muting and silencing, for example. I'd like to figure out whatever the threadiverse equivalent of that is - some way to allow access to those who want it while steering naive users away from places where they're going to have a bad time.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

I agree as well. Fediseer supports censures and hesitations towards instances. You could ingest those and allow piefed to report how they see others and how other see them

[-] rimu@piefed.social 1 points 6 months ago

Great idea.

I've been trying to get into fediseer but piefed does not provide the necessary API to let me claim my instance. I think that's what it is - I get an error message "There was an api error: Only admins of that piefed are allowed to claim it. ". Do you have any docs I can look at which might help me know what endpoints I need to make?

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

Fediseer tries to understand the api of each software and then looks for the admins of the site to pm. Do you have an api endpoint which lists the admin usernames?

[-] rimu@piefed.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes, I have tried to copy Lemmy's /api/v3/site endpoint because I saw a lot of requests to it in the server logs.

https://piefed.social/api/v3/site

Actually I can see a few differences that need tidying up... 'name' is not correct and 'displayName' is missing, for example.

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