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  • Note: "relay" is the nostr term while "instance" is the AP/Mastodon/Lemmy term. They are functionally very similar and offer the same abilities to ban annoying users from "public square" type spaces. Moderation works identically.
  • In AP/mastodon/lemmy you are connected to one "main instance" and then connect to other instances "through" that instance. In nostr, you are typically connected to multiple relays and access content more directly.
  • Nostr is an underlying protocol like AP is for Mastodon/Lemmy. The main use of nostr currently is as a twitter/mastodon clone, but it has other interfaces as well (calendaring, video sharing, etc) that I am less familiar with.
  • Both networks are decentralized in nature

AP/Mastodon/Lemmy

  • Instance admins on your instance and the instance of the user you are DMing can read your DMs, block them, or modify them without your knowledge or the knowledge of the receiving user
  • If your instance goes down, so does your access to the wider network. It will take your DMs with it, and your identity.

Nostr

  • Relays cannot read the content of your DMs as they are encrypted. They can only see that user A is DMing user B and approximate DM size. (This upgrade reduces that visibility further)
  • Relays cannot manipulate DMs as they are encrypted and will fail a signature check
  • No relay can prevent you from DMing another user as your client will automatically route the DM through another relay (unless that user has blocked you, which they can do).
  • You can receive DMs from anybody as long as one relay lets your DM through (and you are usually connected to several)
  • Your DMs and other content is replicated across multiple relays. Downed relay? No problem. You don't lose your content or your identity as your identity is a private/public keypair not "user @ instance dot com"

Bluesky

Idk anybody care to fill this section in?

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[-] Sekoia 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I checked out Nostr relatively recently and it seemed to me it was full of cryptobros and extremely right-wing people (libertarians, Trump fanatics. A ton of racism and queerphobia, also a bunch of conspiracy thinking). Has anything changed?

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 14 points 5 months ago

While I can see the value in speech that doesn’t exist at the whim of our corporate overlords, these are people who’d get beaten up if they tried to speak the way they do online in front of real people.

[-] Rose@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

The corporate overlords are inherently right-wing, which is why they fund, build, and embrace those platforms. There's no revolt in joining them.

[-] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Still some of those, as with any social media platform. I have come across a few objectionable things, I just blocked and moved on. But you pick who you follow so you pick who shows up in your feeds. Each relay has their own moderation policies, so (like Lemmy), you can pick relays which suit your moderation preferences (which effect the "trending notes"/public square section). Most nostr apps by default upon install will ask you if you want to automatically filter out crypto/nsfw/foul language/etc. I picked at random and didn't enable many of the filters.

[-] Sekoia 7 points 5 months ago

I'll stick with AP for now but I'll keep an eye on it, then.

[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 3 points 5 months ago

Libertarians are not right-wing lmao

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They are in the USA, just not of the specific MAGA lunacy.

[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 4 points 5 months ago

You must be American. You should research Libertarian. It's one step before Anarchist.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, I am European and I am painfully aware of the right-wing ursupation of the originally anarchist term "libertarian" in the USA.

[-] Sekoia 14 points 5 months ago

Nostr is culturally vaguely american, and it's hard to distinguish the libertarians from the Trumpists there (I've seen several posts saying "Trump will be better for Bitcoin", for example). Libertarians and republicans both sell themselves as "small government".

"Leftist libertarians" generally call themselves anarchists, in my experience.

[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 6 points 5 months ago

Yes, you're thinking of Libertarian Socialism, which is what I predominantly subscribe to.

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