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[-] audiomodder 35 points 5 months ago

Boy this rhetoric sounds familiar. “Democracy is under attack by Republicans”. Oh right, it’s the exact same goddamn thing Democrats have been saying for the last 15 years. And yet even though they’ve been in power a significant part of that time, somehow we keep inching towards fascism.

At some point you realize that the only real question is do we want fascism next week, or do we want fascism next month? And while I agree that voting for Drumpf is a much worse choice for the country, maybe if Democrats actually did stuff to make every day citizens lives better then maybe it really wouldn’t be much of an argument.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago

even though they’ve been in power a significant part of that time

Since 1981 Democrats have had control of the Presidency and Congress a whopping 4 years. One 2 year period under Clinton and one under Obama. That's without factoring in the ability to fillibuster in the Senate. In over 40 years they've only had control 10% of the time.

maybe if Democrats actually did stuff to *make every day citizens lives better

That period of filibuster-proof control during Obama's term is why we have the ACA. It was ~70 days and they passed the largest healthcare overhaul in generations.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 21 points 5 months ago

That period of filibuster-proof control during Obama’s term is why we have the ACA. It was ~70 days and they passed the largest healthcare overhaul in generations.

Plus the ACA could have been better if it didn't need to get watered down for the one or two Dems/Independents that helped get it past that stupid filibuster roadblock.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Absolutely. Obligatory fuck Joe Lieberman.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 months ago

Remember, Democrats cannot achieve anything unless they have the Presidency and a veto-proof majority in both houses of Congress, and even then only if they compromise to the right. The Republicans mysteriously only need the presidency or the slimmest of majorities in either house of Congress to push their agenda with no need to compromise.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

And a large part of that is because the GOP has a much easier job, they just need to stop the Democrats. They have no real interest in passing legislation most of the time, they simply need to stop the Democrats from enacting policy by whatever means possible and they've accomplished their goal. That's why the Democrats have to compromise and the GOP doesn't. It's not really a mystery.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

maybe if Democrats actually did stuff to make every day citizens lives better

$150 billion student loan forgiveness, first big action in climate change ever in US history, CHIPS act, infrastructure act, huge increase in corporate taxes to fund all that stuff, activists in charge of NLRB which gave fuel to all these union gains we've seen in recent years, recovery from covid like it never happened which basically no other first world country was able to do, gain in wages for low-income workers even adjusted for fairly massive inflation, medical debt off credit reports, net neutrality, plus also obviously not the end of democracy in the US is a nice bonus

(Not to say it isn't a problem the Democrats' general level of money-in-politics corruption, or their willingness to continue dogshit US policies like support for Israel. Both of those are massive problems. But saying that they don't do anything to make everyday citizens' lives better is, at least for the last few years, absolutely objectively false.)

The main problem isn't anything about what the Democrats actually do. It's that the priorities of the people who own the news, and the bots that run social media influence campaigns, are not at all aligned with those every day citizens, and so nobody even knows that any of that big list even happened.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago
[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

By all means! I stole it myself.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago
[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago

Occasionally Republicans do something good. Even Trump. Like the FIRST STEP Act, which was good but not as good as it could have been. I also generally supported the Devos Title IX changes.

I mean, that's my entire list for positive things the GOP did during the Trump admin - it's not exactly long (being the smallest number of things you could meaningfully call a list) but it's still slightly more than "never happens" (even if Biden mostly reversed one of them [he basically undid the Devos Title IX changes except for the bits that were just making the results of court cases part of official policy]).

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

I stole the image from someone else's post who probably stole it from someone else's post. I think nitpicking about "never happens" is a good way to miss the point. I also think when your list is two, it's close enough to never.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

maybe if Democrats actually did stuff to make every day citizens lives better

They have been. Pay attention.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

If you need more to fall the fuck in line than "the other side are fascists running on a platform of doing fascism", you're a fascist.

Yes even if you're whatever minority, gender, sexuality, other, being a moron does not exclude you from still being a fascist, it just makes you a very stupid fascist.

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