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An article was linked in other comment threads, there was a clear start and an uncomfortable girl who texted her mom with absolute fear of being raped.
Something a lot more than moving them around may have happened if she didn't send that text. So yes, no clear attempt at sexually assaulting the girls, but the amount of effort he went to.... Doesn't give me the feeling that this was only about a good night's rest.
That said, I'd prefer the girls safe over him getting more time in prison any day of the week.
100% the guy is an irresponsible creep with terrible judgment and should never be allowed around a kid again.
But as far as any evidence and testimony provides, that's as far as it goes and we do not need inaccurate, alarmist commentary to emphasize how wrong what he actually did was.
If someone punches somebody else, and then a third party screams about how that bastard murderer killed a guy, then it turns out he didn't kill anyone, it ultimately discredits the actual story.
I agree. I wouldnt go so far as saying it was off the table as a possibility, but I wouldn't call it attempted rape.
I don't know what the minimums and maximums are for his actual crime, but I do hope the testimony of what happened was factored into the decision.
If I slipped benzos to someone at a bar, what do you think the charges would be?
The fact of the matter is, in a situation like this you can't get closer to attempted rape without a literal attempt.
Assault. What do you think the charges would be?
"The fact[you're using this word incorrectly] is, you can't get closer to attempted rape without a literal attempt".
You obviously could get much, much closer to attempted rape.
Separation of victims. Hiding their clothes. No phones, locked doors, invitations, solicitations, there are uncountable horrific ways to get closer to a rape attempt.
Downplaying his actual crime is the main problem with you crying wolf. This was a horrible, irresponsible and creepy thing for this guy to do, and because you're pretending something else happened that there is no evidence or testimony for, you're trivializing what he actually did in order to fearmonger about what he could have done.
If someone kicks you in the street and you accuse them of murder, all you're doing is minimizing their actual crime to get more attention for yourself.