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[-] paf0@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

It was expensive for Google and fighting them would destroy most companies. It's cheaper to avoid the ecosystem entirely.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 18 points 6 months ago

It was expensive for Google, but they've done the hard work of establishing the precedent. It's much easier to fight when you have a strong binding precedent on your side.

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I don't have to fight if I just use something else. There is very little advantage to using Java when everything from .NET to Node to Ruby to Python are all super mature and have a similar amount of open source packages available. There might still be a question of performance and for that we have Go, Rust and elixir- not quite as mature but all still can do everything I need and then some.

As an added bonus, none of those frameworks have Larry Ellison lurking around the corner waiting to sue me if he decides to change the terms of license. Java is dead to me.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

.NET... You trust Microsoft over Oracle. Ridiculous.

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

When have they ever sued someone for using .NET?

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

They could though! Microsoft has a long history of "embrace, extend, extinguish"!

You may be willing to put your company at risk because you trust Microsoft but I'm not going to.

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Feel free to do you, I have told you this already. Seeing you're unable to drop the conversation, when did Microsoft ever sue someone for using C#? I trust Microsoft far more than Oracle (reasons detailed in another comment). However, I do not run Microsoft software at my company at this time, other things work better for what I need.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

when did Microsoft ever sue someone for using C#?

When has Oracle sued somebody for using OpenJDK?

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Give them a few years to change the rules. If their prior love of lawsuits is any indication they will do so soon.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Same with Microsoft. The company harvesting personal information to feed to an AI.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Do you see?? Do you see yet that you're just now blindly defending a company that has been so anti-open source in its past? A company that has been found guilty of abusing a monopoly? Yet you're defending them over another company that has also done terrible things??

You're approach is so laughably black & white with no nuance that you can't even see that I'm mocking it by attacking Microsoft with your same terrible logic.

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

No, these are different situations. One openly sued the user's of their language, the other did not.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

You don't even understand what they sued over. 🤣

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