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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 256 points 5 months ago

62 projected seats for nazis... great job citizens, great job -.-

[-] voodoocode@feddit.de 155 points 5 months ago

There are even more, included in Nonaligned. The German Nazis (afd 16 seats) were kicked out of ID

[-] ErilElidor@feddit.de 122 points 5 months ago

Not to mention they were kicked out of the Nazi group, because THEY WERE TOO EXTREME FOR THEM. Wake me up in 5 years when we can hopefully stop this...

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 43 points 5 months ago

kicked out of the Nazi group, because THEY WERE TOO EXTREME FOR THEM

I was going to joke suggesting that, but you already had my joke crushed by reality being exactly that 😢

[-] RidderSport@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago

On paper they were more extreme, the right loves to be seen as not that far right when in fact they are

[-] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

I have a horrible feeling that this is the beginning of a terrible slide. The racists will use this opportunity to be as obstructionist as they can and then scream in their home countries about how inefficient the EU is, and because the EU is so far away from home for most people, they'll believe them. And then we'll slide further.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 51 points 5 months ago

SIXTEEN!?

sorry, I gotta vomit.

[-] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago

Second strongest party in germany as a whole and strongest in east germany. Ahead of all member parties of our current government.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 62 points 5 months ago

Thanks ~~Obama~~ Merz and Springer. Their constant Ampel bashing really fucked everything up.

[-] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

The Ampel may have gained control over the government at the worst possible time. Everything is currently shit and people always blame the government, even though some of that is not under their control, which currently places blame on the only three important center-left parties. Thus people turn right.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 38 points 5 months ago

unfunny thing though is, that most of the shit we have to deal with right now comes from the time CDU/CSU was in charge.

I... I'm so fricking done.

And the CDU blames them for everything they fucked up the past 20 years.

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.de 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's a tale as old as time. Conservatives fuck up so many things that they can't be fixed in the one term other parties occasionally get. And when those then fail to fix everything, people go "see? They're not better. Might as well vote conservative again."

[-] Luccus@feddit.de 13 points 5 months ago

Even worse; the Greens get blamed for shit the FDP does, because people don't know how coalitions work.

[-] someacnt_@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago
[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 5 months ago

Merz is the faction leader of Germans Conservative and Christian party CDU.

Springer is a magazine publisher known mostly for the newspaper Bild.

Ampel is the name of the current German government coalition: SPD (red), FDP (yellow) and Bündnis 90/Die Grünen (Green)

[-] someacnt_@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I see, thanks! "Conservative & Christian" sounds like a red flag.

[-] Tarogar@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago

If it helps to put it into more perspective. Those conservatives or CDU somewhat recently visited republicans in the US and figured that it might be a good idea to copy how they do politics in the US to apply it in Germany. But making noise is unfortunately what works even if it's not actually correct or an issue at all.

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

I just had the sudden urge to downvote your comment just because I hate what you said so much.

[-] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

Thing is, they would've probably gained even more votes if they didn't incur so many scandals recently. People will probably forget about those until the next national elections

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 5 months ago

and on the other hand, Mannheim and Sylt kinda helped them.

Not sure about Sylt, but Mannheim was devinetively in their favour.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago

I saw postings on twitter and YouTube where teenager were outraged that the government didn't get that L'amour Tojours was just a harmless memes. So a few idiots voted in favour of AfD in response.

[-] friendlymessage@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago

I think they mainly lost votes because of BSW. Putin dick-riders can now choose, their scandals usually don't matter to their voters

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 19 points 5 months ago

And ID got 30 seats in France. Macron is having a new election on the 30th and well

[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I am ashamed of my fellow citizens for making this happened. 35 seats, they get 35, RN + La France Fière (Zemmour).

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.de 5 points 5 months ago

Can anybody explain his thinking? Why would you hand the fascists the wheel?

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 43 points 5 months ago

I'm voting as hard as I can, okay 🥵

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

I wish you could just vote harder

[-] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Well, you can vote harder. The polls are not the only place you vote. Every purchase is a vote. Most people neglect their consumer power. I’m boycotting hundreds (if not thousands) of harmful companies and products, including Amazon. You can always vote harder by investigating the shops and brands you support. You can investigate whether your bank invests in the fossil fuel energy and change banks (or better, become unbanked). You can follow the !climate_action_individual@slrpnk.net community.

E.g. certainly one small thing @lurch@sh.itjust.works can do is ditch sh.itjust.works for a different instance. Website weight has quadrupled since Cloudflare took hold because CF encourages web admins to create heavy websites. sh.itjust.works is CF-based.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

My god... "Consumer power" is a myth, there's no evidence of it working for anything significant. "consumer power" will NOT help preventing the rise of the extreme right wing in Europe. Organize your workplace, create tight communities in your local area, strike and protest, create safety networks... Those are the things that are actually proven to work.

[-] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My god… “Consumer power” is a myth, there’s no evidence of it working for anything significant.

I guess you are not following Gaza. McDonalds in Israel decided to give free meals to Israeli soldiers. McDonalds customers who boycott Israel impacted McDonalds’ bottom line. And it’s a franchise. The McDonalds shops in Israel had different ownership than McDonalds outside Israel (where the boycott was impacting). So in response McDonalds HQ directly bought out all Israeli branches in order to stop the support to Israeli troops, just to protect their brand.

Lidl and Aldi both started taking a hit in Europe because their produce from Israel was being boycotted. Aldi got caught removing the origin label from their produce when Israel was the origin. Lidl got caught falsifying the label by displaying a different region. If the boycott was insignificant, there would be insufficient motivation for a grocery chain to commit fraud against their customers. So I boycott the whole Lidl chain and Aldi North, not just Israeli products.

Organize your workplace

Or boycott without organising, as this person did:

https://slrpnk.net/post/4687232

Here’s what does not work: not boycotting.Boycotts only lack effect when in fact they are not executed. IOW, the apathy you advocate weakens the strength of boycotts. The shitty attitude that boycotts don’t work is the sole factor that disempowers boycotts from working.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Wow man, Aldi changed a label, we're almost there!

[-] Matumb0@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Not sure if we should call them Nazi, as they kicked out the German Nazis, as explained in other comments. Maybe call them nationalists or ultra nationalists?

[-] friendlymessage@feddit.de 25 points 5 months ago

They kicked out the German Nazis because they celebrated the SS, which is a no-go for French Nazis. Doesn't make them less Nazi, just the French kind that doesn't like to be killed by German Nazis

[-] Matumb0@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

But what is a Nazi? I thought someone who praises or follows the idea and ideology of Hitler Germany. So if someone says „ah this sounds too much like hitler or what is closest followers would say, therefore I dislike it“ can you then really call them a nazi? If someone think „this is to German“ can you be a nazi? After all Nazis where also German ultra nationalists, who think people who are not German are of less worthy. So since other nationalistic parties follow this ideology, but just replace Germany by their own country, I think Ultra nationalists is better fitting. You would also not say Japanese Nazis or Thailand Nazis. Or if you would say Argentinia Nazis, people who know should understand something very different.

[-] friendlymessage@feddit.de 23 points 5 months ago

It's only Nationalsozialismus if it's from the Nationalsozialismusregion, otherwise it's just sparkling fascism

[-] Matumb0@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Ah never thought about this origin. So Nazi means basically someone who supports Socialistic Nationalism, no matter for which country? ! Did not think about this but it makes sense.

[-] friendlymessage@feddit.de 11 points 5 months ago

Yeah, it's short for National Socialism which was just a rebranding of Fascism in Germany to get Workers on board. So I guess Fascism is the better term to use in any case but seriously, it's just different flavours of the same shit so I think it's a mood point to differentiate. They all support the same ideology and policies

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago
[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

ECR is shit, they're a bunch of eurosceptic, anti-immigration, libertarian conservative nationalists, but they don't hold a candle to ID, who are that, but on steroids.

[-] Dalkor@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Libertarian nationalist? Isn't that mutually exclusive?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Oh yeah, but not if you're only libertarian against laws that tell you not to exploit people or destroy the planet.

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