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[-] venoft@lemmy.world 85 points 5 months ago

She's wrong though, everything following the scientific method is science. The fact that you didn't pay out of your ass to publicize your research doesn't matter. Of course it reaches less people, but that's a separate issue.

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 5 months ago
[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 8 points 5 months ago

With all these "she" talk in this comment section, I was like when did LeCun change gender?

I don't even do anything remotely related to AI, but I know LeCun is a dude.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 27 points 5 months ago

The scientific method includes peer reviewing.

You don't have to post it on a commercial database, only free one will do. But it needs to be accessible by the world.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Does it require independent peer review though? How do you achieve that ~~with~~ without publication? The predatory publication system is a different point.

Edit: fix without

[-] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

There's no such thing as a scientific method

[-] oce@jlai.lu 9 points 5 months ago

He probably means the idealized scientific method you learn at school is not what really happens in reality, in particular "soft" science fields may not be able to follow it strictly and still do good science.

[-] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Doesn't this difference make the scientific method not real?

Edit: I don't talk about bad science.

[-] Johanno@feddit.de 4 points 5 months ago

The scientific method varies from field to field. In medicine you usually need to proof it by taking a significant amount people. Then create a control group and a testing group. Then test your medicine on the group and give the other placebos.

When you can measure health improvement for one group over the other there is a reasonable amount of proof that the medicine works.

The scientific method has one major goal. Reduce human made errors in science. Humans do not work objectively. Humans always have an bias. Things like reproduceable tests and peer review try to reduce the bias.

[-] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

Take 10 labs and you'll get 10 definitions of the scientific method. It's just a tradition that yields some results.

peer review try to reduce the bias.

Sounds like you haven't been peer reviewed enough

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

everything following the scientific method is science

I'm fairly certain "report conclusions" is a pretty big deal in the scientific method. Principle of verifiability and all that.

[-] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

True a lot of science is done in industry and the corporate world and not published to keep it a trade secret. It is still science but not shared.

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