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[-] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 176 points 7 months ago

Bees have a stinger, and "bird" has been a slang term for a woman (like, what, 1920-1950s?).

Regards, I agree that's needlessly vague, and just about to the point of useless.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 115 points 7 months ago

The only bees with stingers are the female ones, though.

[-] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 101 points 7 months ago

Fine, Bs represent bra size so that's the women's room, and a cock is a bird, so that's the men's room.

Any way you slice it, these signs don't help.

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 65 points 7 months ago
[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 62 points 7 months ago

I give up I'm going to go piss in the kitchen

[-] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago
[-] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 24 points 7 months ago
[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

Gotta have both.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 7 months ago
[-] sjmarf@sh.itjust.works 56 points 7 months ago
[-] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago

Wow, how did I miss that??

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 34 points 7 months ago

Wtf

Alternate comment: I love how you need to internalize 100 years of sexism before you can relieve yourself

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Harmless old slang terms are now sexist. Got it.

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago

I'm pretty sure it was sexist back then too. It's just that nobody cared.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 months ago

Googled it real quick and it's from the French Burd, meaning noblewoman

So.... No?

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago

Interesting. I didn't know the words origins. I've always considered it alongside the classic English tradition of referring to women as various animals.

[-] Kit 6 points 7 months ago

This isnt a uniquely female experience. Men commonly refer to their friends as "dog". Also, in the gay community, men's body types are equated to animals such as "bear," "otter," and "cub".

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago
[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago
[-] ekky@sopuli.xyz 10 points 7 months ago

Thank you for the explanation.

As someone not too familiar with American cultures, I'd probably make an assumption and go for the (to me) more masculine bird over the docile and flower loving bee, since bees have stingers that they normally would never use and birds have beaks/peckers.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

I've only ever heard bird used as working class slang for a woman in Britain.

[-] ekky@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

Hmm, well, I have heard women being compared to singing birds (or more degrading as vultures or pen of hens if in group), but I've more often heard women being romantically compared to bees or flowers. Though, I don't think I've ever heard men being compared to bees, but often to birds (eagles, vultures, seagulls, etc.).

Might also be local culture, as I usually think of harmony, nature, and perhaps matriarchy when pondering bees, while birds seem much more gender neutral, like, standoff-ish, elegant, brutal, impulsive, egoistic, even presented as predatory and evil in children movies and some media.

So, using common stereotyping, you can see where I'm coming from.

[-] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Maybe that's where I heard it? Dunno, it's certainly not current by any stretch.

[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 4 points 7 months ago

Odd that so many people are coming out the woodwork to say they didn't know Britons fairly often call women birds.

[-] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

I've heard dame used more often than bird myself. Honestly, not sure I've actually heard bird used... it's like a vague sense of "I think I knew that.... right?" and my brain shrugs back.

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

It's slang you'd hear 50 years ago in the east end and Essex. You'll only really hear it used by gangsters in movies these days or someone putting on the accent for laughs, possibly from an old geezer, you certainly won't hear it used by respectable establishments or family friendly media. It's not generally considered offensive but is considered uncouth.

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