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Lemmy and Mastodon feel like the real web3. (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by kiriakos@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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I think this decentralization and federation is what web3 is all about, without all the corporations calling everything to do with monkey pixel art that costs a million dollars "web3"

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[-] lucien@beehaw.org 193 points 2 years ago

Hah, web 2.0 was all about the explosion of user-generated content. Corps and cryptonerds wanted to make web 3.0 about making money, but the web has always been about the content, not its monetization. In trying to monetize the content, they're alienating people and forcing them off the platforms they defaulted to.

Humans like to create and share content, no matter how easy or difficult it is to monetize. If the people who want to monetize humanity's collective output make it harder to create, then hopefully the result is that people move off the ad-supported platforms and replace them with something that doesn't rely on centralization with lots of capital to stay afloat.

If nothing else, the way that youtube has made it impossible for segments of the creative community to monetize their content and forced them rely on platforms such as patreon has made it more and more clear that ad-generated revenue is a dead end. You can't force people to view advertising unless you hold their content hostage, and for the first time in history, they can't buy out the means of production.

[-] BobKillsNinjas@lemmy.world 92 points 2 years ago

I was resistant to the federverses, but these corpos just think they can get away with anything...

Fuck them I won't do what they tell me!

It will be fun to watch this place grow, it feels like the start of a new story!

[-] kiriakos@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

based

[-] huskersax@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

federverses

I'm more a fan of the nadalverses, but to each their own.

[-] DRx@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

[-] DRx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ok apparently my gif did not work

https://tenor.com/view/nadal-federer-gif-7675211

[-] ultimate_question@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

replace them with something that doesn’t rely on centralization with lots of capital to stay afloat

There's no conceivable reason that reddit shouldn't be profitable right now with the market saturation they have unless the majority of people who've been making money off of the site up until now have been minimal effort contributors trying to get their piece of the money pie. 99% of the work is done by "unpaid" (by reddit) mods yet somehow they still have 2k people on the payroll and still need to centralize more and more capital to cover the overhead, it's easy to imagine most of their current expenses are going to dumb corporate tech money sinks that are going out of style fast and have little to show for the last decade of spending lol

[-] berkeleyblue@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

I mean that’s maybe the only good thing: If they are a public traded company, they have to file public revenue reports. Would love to see where those morons burn their money…

[-] lucien@beehaw.org 17 points 2 years ago

2k people in expensive San Francisco office space. Willing to bet that the % of them dedicated to improving user experience was quite low in comparison to those trying to figure out how to squeeze money out of it.

[-] bandario@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Every single platform that has claimed "Web 3.0" has been revealed to be a crypto scam, and generally not even a sneaky one. Pop over to minds.com if you'd like a free taste of exactly what that ends up looking like. It's disgusting.

[-] PottedPlant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Good God, minds.com is a cesspool.

[-] lucien@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Very much aware of that.

[-] ultimate_question@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

replace them with something that doesn’t rely on centralization with lots of capital to stay afloat

That's what's silly about the whole thing, there's absolutely no conceivable reason that reddit shouldn't be profitable right now with the market saturation they have... unless the majority of people currently making money off of it have been greedy assholes up until now trying to get their piece of the easy money pie. 99% of the work is done by "unpaid" (by reddit) mods yet somehow they still have 2k people on the payroll, it's hard to imagine most of their current expenses are going to anything but dumb tech company money sinks that are going out of style fast lol