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submitted 5 months ago by gianni@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15988326

Windows 10 will reach end of support on October 14, 2025. The current version, 22H2, will be the final version of Windows 10, and all editions will remain in support with monthly security update releases through that date. Existing LTSC releases will continue to receive updates beyond that date based on their specific lifecycles.

Source: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro

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[-] Toes@ani.social 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A devastating amount of computer hardware is about to be e-wasted because they decided to drop support for anything older than roughly 2017/2018.

It's an arbitrary limitation as people have succeeded in forcing it to work on much older hardware that still works well enough for your avg person.

Additionally, windows used to be a tool now it's a platform for them to essentially market any number of things and user privacy appears to be the least important thing on the table.

The only reason we don't see mass adoption of Linux has been 4 decades of software development and marketing that let's them continue to wear their crown.

A regulatory party needs to humble them and return windows to being a tool.

Imagine if the gasoline companies one day announced that they will be changing gas so only cars bought in the last 5 years or so could refuel.

Now imagine if to buy a car you had to tolerate cameras and other forms of tracking your telemetry just to get to work and feed yourself.

Lunacy yes? They took the "my" out of my computer.

[-] Pyrarrows@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Fun fact, there were still computers being manufactured with CPUs that don't support Windows 11 in 2020, got one of those at work that we will need to replace before then. Thankfully only one, so it's not too big of a deal.

Imagine if the gasoline companies one day announced that they will be changing gas so only cars bought in the last 5 years or so could refuel.

They've already effectively did this, and by they I mean the US government mandated it. 5% ethanol has been mandated since 2006, and 10% since 2012. If your car is too old (lots of 90s cars) you'll have to find a gas station that has ethanol free fuel.

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago

I've read this a few times. If ethanol is mandated how are there stations with ethanol free? Do they just have a pay an extra tax or something?

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It’s allowed for certain types of vehicles, so people illicitly put it in to regular vehicles as well and gas stations turn a blind eye.

[-] die444die@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

It’s not illicit to put non ethanol gas in any vehicle, and even if it were would you actually expect gas stations to confirm the type of vehicle that’s getting fuel for every transaction before the customer is allowed to swipe their card and fill up?

You may be confusing ethanol free gas with off road diesel, which is basically just lower taxed and not dyed. Even then it’s not up to the gas station to police who buys it.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I think actually I was thinking the extra-high octane gas labeled 'for collector vehicles only'.

[-] die444die@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Ah okay I’ve not come across that one myself. It’s also possible certain states have different regulations (if we are talking about the US).

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It prevents knocking in sensitive vintage vehicles, which were designed for leaded gas, too. That article also covers why ethanol can be harmful for them.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Why should they have to support Windows 10 when Linux would run fine on your 'old' machine? That really puts the 'yours' back in your computer, no need for a company to do it for you.

[-] Toes@ani.social 11 points 5 months ago

Yeah and abandon so much in the process.

Linux is wonderful and works plenty fine, but as a civilization we are not ready. There's still so much that won't work out of the box, for most manufacturers it's an after thought if any at all.

You can't walk into your avg store and be like I want a computer with Linux that will play fortnite.

You can't blindly buy a video game or a multifunctional printer without serious consideration.

Unlike Windows where it's the established norm that it will work 100% of the time.

Sure you can argue that a user should just learn to deal with that and teach themselves how to install Linux and cope with whatever comes up.

But that's just unfair to grandma and anyone else that hasn't made computers a hobby.

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I have two Surface Pros that are BIOS locked so I can't install Linux. They also don't support Win11.

I'm not sure what I can do with them.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I am full of rage by proxy, sorry to hear that. I've been thinking of only buying coreboot motherboards from now on, but that's easier said than done.

[-] e0qdk@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

Now imagine if to buy a car you had to tolerate cameras and other forms of tracking your telemetry just to get to work and feed yourself.

Sorry to be the bearer of depressing news, but that's basically already happening in new cars.

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/

https://jacobin.com/2024/03/car-spying-insurance-surveillance-data/

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