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[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm not surprised that a rag-tag team of officers without radios was unaware of the firepower on their sides.

In any case, the officers who were chasing down the shooter with only pistols are heroes. The situation would have been much worse without their action.

The radio-call I highlighted there is timestamped at 11:40am. Its a real call from the scene. And that's only 5 minutes after the shooter entered (and was already after the firefights that happened at 11:38 IIRC). In any case, we're well within the quick action / quick response of the first team, who were largely fighting an uphill battle with pistols, a lack of tactical radios, and other problems.


This doesn't change the fact either, that these officers at 11:40 were not a SWAT team. They were just normal officers. Officers don't get (and shouldn't get) military style / warrior training.

And I refuse to give officers more military/warrior training. We already are dealing with an overly militarized police force. I am 100% against any discussion where your conclusion is "Police need bigger guns and need to be meaner".

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago
[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

This is relatively recent in the great scheme of things.

I'd prefer it if we went back before warrior-cop mentality. Cops aren't soldiers. In fact, any cop that tries to be a soldier becomes worse at doing cop-jobs (and vice versa. Soldiers aren't cops, we shouldn't be putting soldiers on the frontlines of "Win the hearts and minds" of foreigners like we did in Afghanistan).

[-] Wilshire@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

I think most people would agree with that statement.

The inaction afterwards, when the police chief arrived, is the issue.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago
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