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Israel calls on ‘civilised nations’ to boycott ICC arrest warrants against its leaders
(www.theguardian.com)
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Playing the (other) devil's advocate, wasn't Hamas elected too?
Yes, they were elected. Quite a long time ago.
However, Israel (arguably) through the PLO, has blocked every opportunity for new elections since then. The last most recent attempt was in 2021, where Israel directly intervened to prevent Palestinians in East Jerusalem from voting.
So like, yes its true that Hamas is an elected government. Its also true that they haven't had elections in 2 decades. Its also true that both Hamas and Fatah in agreement have tried several times to hold elections, and have either been foibled via the PLO (which by some is considered an influence puppet of Israel), or directly prevented by Israel.
Exactly. When someone thinks an occupied people living under siege and military occupation can just wake up one day and decide to hold elections I can only shake my head. Israel won't allow it, because they love Hamas being in power in Gaza, it provides a very easy excuse for their actions. Israel loves the status quo, because they can seemingly get away with anything as it is.
MMm. I disagree. I think they love Hamas being viewed as an illegitimate government, and have been consistently concerned that Hamas will legitimately win any election when called. Hence their effectively trying to block Hamas from the ballot or preventing elections from happening. They want Hamas as an 'illegitimate partner', but not to be recognized as a 'legitimate partner'.
I don't think they care whether they are legitimate or not to be completely honest. Hamas won the election in '06 fair and square, then defended against an attempted coup..whether that leaves them as a legitimate power or not is beyond my scope of understanding. One could probably also argue that they lack of elections for the last 18 years makes them illegitimate. But regardless, Hamas is an easy excuse whether they were elected fairly today or 18 years ago. I honestly don't think Israel would treat Hamas and Palestinians any differently if they won a fair election again next week.
18 years ago, and that doesn’t justify collective punishment
And they were elected the same way Putin was elected. People voted with a gun pointed at the head
And the person holding the gun was propped up by Israel. Both financially via Qatari money Israel allowed in, and also politically by destroying the Palestinian Authority and their ability to govern.
Lots of historical war criminals were elected to office, Sinwar and Netanyahu included. That's why they were both charged.
Ages ago (2006?). Even then, they got something like 40% of the vote. Less than half the voting-age Gazans alive just before the oct 7 attack were even able to vote in the election. Less that a quarter of the current Gazans voted for Hamas.
This is in comparison to 2022 Israeli elections leading to the current government in Israel.