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[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I hate conservative ideology but I'm not cool with dehumanizing them in this fashion. That's literally the words of fascism. Jews were referred to as cockroaches in Germany in the 1930s.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Your enemy has already dehumanized you. They are fascists. You're offering them far more sympathy and compassion than they would ever give you, and they would gladly use your sympathy against you given any opportunity.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

You're offering them far more sympathy and compassion than they would ever give you

Yes, because we're better than them.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Your "betterness" is only seen by conservatives as weakness to exploit. As we move into an era of much more deadly consequences, your position of "being better" is dangerous to you and those around you.

[-] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Then let them think we’re weak. Dehumanizing others goes against my principles, whether or not that person dehumanizes me. I won’t compromise myself to “best” them because doing so would defeat the purpose.

Refusing to dehumanize them doesn’t make us any more exploitable, and I would argue refusal to dehumanize others solidifies trust on the side of those with humanity left.

When I see someone refuse to sink to such low states as calling other humans “cockroaches” i have more respect for them, and that much more faith trust they won’t turn around and call me a cockroach a few years down the line when political tides change.

If you’re out here calling people cockroaches then I really don’t give a fuck what you have to say. Bad faith, emotional based insults get us nowhere. They give us too much ammo to be that lazy.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Humanizing an enemy who will not return the sentiment is how kind, empathetic people are led to their deaths. Withholding emotions for an enemy (who is incapable of empathy and who delights in your suffering) helps to eliminate emotional conflicts when hesitation will result in loss.

On the topic of emotional responses: Your emotional response to my withholding of empathy for the enemy leads me to distrust your ability to do what is needed when the time comes. I argue that the "emotional response" in this argument has been yours alone.

In any other situation, where an existential life and death conflict was not at hand, I would agree with you. When prepping for war, however, I must insist on not being empathetic with my enemy.

[-] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

My response wasn’t particularly emotional but sure.

Keeping my empathy doesn’t preclude me from being discerning, swift and decisive in moments of crisis or high risk. I prefer to be kind, that doesn’t mean I don’t know how to be vicious.

When “prepping for war”, it’s important to consider the non-actors that may get caught in the crossfire. “Conservatives” is a wide generalization, many of them are not only capable of empathy, but dare I say decent people, even if they’re under the spell of propaganda.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a trans woman with a gun and a plan for if/when crisis hits. I’m very aware of the current threats to my life and continued pursuit of happiness. But before that I’m human, and so are they. And as far as I can tell, most of them are as unwilling to participate in this propaganda driven culture war as I am.

So yeah, I’ll keep my empathy.

Don’t let one loud house ruin the neighborhood.

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