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[-] kashifshah@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

After that news on research that a Trump victory would likely spell the end of NATO, don’t be surprised if the rightists starts to see this election as being about ending NATO and withdrawing from the UN.

Typical right-wing goals that maybe leftists don’t appreciate the strength of conviction that the hard-liners have.

That (and the obvious social conservative goals) are the only legitimacy that Drumpf really has.

edit: also, Trump trumped Biden on the Palestenian genocide when he moved the Israeli embassy. i’m sure that that emboldened Netanyahu to press even harder rightwards. Now look at it.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

ending NATO

But an end to NATO would be an unambiguously good thing. It has literally never fought a defensive war in its history and the places its invaded and bombed are still hurting decades later.

withdrawing from the UN.

A UN where the US couldn't veto a hundred demands for peace in Palestine, backed by threat of sanctions is also an unambiguously good thing.

If I genuinely believed Trump would bring about a peaceful dismantling of the American Empire, I'd have to campaign for him.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

If I genuinely believed Trump would bring about a peaceful dismantling of the American Empire, I’d have to campaign for him.

He is straight up using Hitler's play book.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/10/04/trump-poison-blood-quote/

If you at all care about the lives of trans people, black people, women, latin american people, and the other many targets of Trump & the republicans, then you must recognize that under no circumstances should Trump be given power.

[-] kashifshah@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

But an end to NATO would be an unambiguously good thing

If one were to take Russia at face-value, they might lighten up a bit with less NATO.

A UN where the US couldn't veto a hundred demands for peace in Palestine, backed by threat of sanctions is also an unambiguously good thing.

The US is one of like, what, two countries in the entirety of the UN that haven’t yet ratified ICESCR after 50+ years. So, making some more sense there, too.

I’d not see us leave the UN, though, because then we would truly be screwed. The US would officially no longer embrace human rights, not being a member-state.

But point well taken.

If I genuinely believed Trump would bring about a peaceful dismantling of the American Empire, I'd have to campaign for him.

I’d genuinely be right there with you if he came out as 100% in favor of UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Not having that is an automatic disqualifier for me.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

The US would officially no longer embrace human rights

The US only embraces human rights of enemy states. We've got more prisoners than any other country and support the worst dictatorships.

[-] kashifshah@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago

Until we ratify the International Covenant on Economic Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR) in the US, I’m inclined to agree.

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