Mastodon and free speech (lemmy.sdf.org)

submitted 1 year ago by Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org to c/mastodon@lemmy.ml

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This post is not only to try finding the best Mastodon instance/server but I also wanted to express about the Mastodon instances. Most of Mastodon servers are apparently harsh about other instances that include things they don't like and are quite serious about getting those Internet points putting how the place isn't welcome for "bigotry" and is for everyone and so diverse, and I wouldn't have any problems with this if this wasn't frequently used by people who will try to shut you if they disagree enough with you and will try to present themselves as so virtuous. You'd expect that the free side of the Internet would have people that value freedom and should let anything that isn't a crime or something that prejudice the instance itself or whatever space they're in but it seems this vision is getting far from the reality with time.

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[-] Daeraxa@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You knocked the nail on the head with the first sentence.

The thing is that instances are not the individuals themselves but spaces for individuals

With federation you can join like minded spaces, nobody is forcing anybody to join a particular instance. The whole thing is about freedom and choice yet you seem to want to limit that choice for people?

[-] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

It doesn't limit the choice of people (it's quite the opposite actually). It's limiting people access and restricting people from the tool itself instead of letting the people themselves isolating naturally their groups without restraining others' liberties. They can do anything as a private space but that doesn't mean everything every decision is good and can't be criticized. Also, I defend the right of those instances to be assholes even if I disagree with everything and if someone would try to FORCE a specific set of rules on any instance I would stand for their rights; bit again, that doesn't make them free of doing bad things with their rights or from criticizing, and my criticism is that the Internet should be free as in freedom.

[-] Daeraxa@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I also agree they have the right to be twats... On their own instance and with a way for others to not listen. I'm not really sure what the argument here actually is.

Group 1 are saying things that Group 2 don't like
Group 2 create a community with similar ideals and openly announce they are not going to be listening to anything from Group 1
People from Group 2 join that instance because they know the people administering it will be monitoring and removing content they don't like
Group 1 start crying about not being able to shout at Group 2 who are perfectly happy not having to see anything at all from Group 1.
Group 1 are perfectly free to do exactly the same thing. They can create their own community and federate with people who don't mind what they are saying.

The whole thing is entirely free and fair - you can say what you want and you can block out what you want. I'm not sure I understand what the criticism is other than wanting to shout at people who don't want to hear it.

this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2023

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