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[-] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Except toxic masculinity shows that there are misandrist power structures that men suffer from, which means your definition of power structures isn't encompassing.

You are more concerned about who you see as in charge then the actual victimization, which ironically is toxic masculinity.

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[-] LadyAutumn 1 points 1 year ago

No, the ruling class is composed of white heterosexual cisgender men and there are no power structures that discriminate against or commit acts of violence against them on any of those bases. There are no systems of class wide discrimination against white people, heterosexual people, cisgender people, or men.

The actual victimization is against the marginalized, who suffer from systemic and institutional violence perpetuated by power structures. Youre still having a hard time with the concept of systems of power and their intersections. Plenty of men suffer consequences of misogyny, like toxic masculinity, and with other systems of power like the military industrial complex, the prison industrial complex, wage slavery under late stage capitalism, discrimination and prejudice against homelessness, and classism. But there is no power structure discriminating against men as a class. It simply does not exist, the ruling class of men who hold power in our society would not allow themselves to be discriminated against in any way. So men as a class are not discriminated against by a power structure.

[-] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Goal post moving again. So now it's not enough to show there's systemic oppression of men?

What do I need to prove? Lay it out. Because I've shown you're wrong on every level, I've shown you the contradictions, I've shown evidence of systemic misandry, and now you're deflecting to complaining about cisgender white people?! Like duuude I don't think you're genuine. You're choosing to stick your head in the sand.

[-] LadyAutumn 1 points 1 year ago

You can't prove it because the ruling class is composed of men who would not allow themselves to be discriminated against. There is no systemic discrimination of the class of men. Some men suffer systemic discrimination from power structures, but there is no system of violence and discrimination against men as a class.

As a class. Read it again. Nice and slow, as a class. All women suffer from misogyny, every single one. There is no equivalent thing that all men suffer from. Because the ruling class is composed of men who would not allow themselves to be discriminated against. So there is no system of discrimination against the class of men.

You're not understanding what this conversation is even about lol ๐Ÿ™„

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