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How can you push agendas if you don't have one?
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I am one of the <1% that vote Green.
My only agenda is shouting into the void because I am effectively powerless.
Just because you can't solve everything all on your own doesn't mean you're effectively powerless.
What does make you powerless is refusing to act because you have to be part of a crowd to help, instead of some lone avenging angel who can solve everything with a snap of their fingers.
No, what makes me powerless is that 99% of people who vote make the same choices every election regardless of the quality of the candidate.
And that, I definitely cannot change.
At some point in history, voting was about picking the best, most qualified candidate.
In recent years, voting has become picking the person that makes the other color lose.
I wonder what the Founding Fathers would think of what their country has become.
I imagine most would be pleased. They only ever wanted the voice of wealthy men to matter in the first place, and now it's the supreme law of the land.
I don't think so, they were trying to get away from a government that pushed too heavily onto the people. Regardless, it was a question that can never have an answer, since we cannot ask them.
When they created the United States, their Constitution only allowed the vote to wealthy male landowners.
They'd be exceedingly pleased with the way things turned out. They never wanted common people to have any real voice beyond dying for wealthy people's property.
I got some bad news for you buddy
This issue is not recent by any stretch of the imagination.
Also the founding fathers sucked and were constantly drunk slave holders.
Hey now, let a man have his drink now and again, or we'll put another tax on whiskey.
The best Founding Fathers were the abolitionists among them, though. Most of the slave-holders who shat up the founding are long-forgotten by popular culture, except for Jefferson and Madison.
At least you're honest about it
No reason to hide it.
The shameful thing is being a proud Democrat or Republican after the last 40 years of regression for the American people.
The shameful part is people like you help usher in fascism so you can feel superior
- Michael Parenti. (1996). Fascism in a Pinstriped Suit
Many people have been living under fascism in the United States for decades, suffering under explicitly racist police and judiciary systems, fighting against explicitly fascist foreign policy, and trying to wake people up to the explicitly fascist rhetoric of both democrats and republicans.
Dafuq, ai?
That is numerically impossible.
My side has no power whatsoever.
Except to starve the non fascist of a vote which you admitted to
That is a falsehood.
You all deprive yourselves of our votes by failing to follow through on your promises, along with those of the half of this country that can't afford to miss a desperately needed day's pay in order to vote for someone they know is only going to ignore them once elected.
Your party is the problem. You don't get to beat people down and then pretend you're the aggrieved party because they didn't stand up with blood pouring down their faces and ask for more.
Yeah it's a falsehood unless you look at what the options are and have some ideas of what the future holds, which we do
What you're doing is entirely self-interested jerking, only useful to feel (falsely af) superior
I gotta say your username makes a lot of sense in this context. No concern for working together with others
Thank you for your opinion.
Good luck with the election. Your entitlement to the votes of Greens without doing anything to earn them is definitely a bold strategy.
You are aligned with Jill Stein. Just sit with that a minute
Jill Stein isn't putting kids in cages or helping the Israelis commit Holocaust 2.0.
Sit with that a minute.
Yes we all know that Biden personally drinks Palestinian blood but your leader thinks 9/11 was perpetrated by the US government among other moronic ideas.
I mean, he might as well be. His response to the Israeli pogroms was to give them even more weapons. You and I get to pay for those weapons, which is more than enough for me to vote for someone else.
I mean, on the plus side, she can form a coherent sentence, which Biden definitely struggles with.
Yeah she is really good at spouting moronic conspiracy theories but let's make fun of the old guy with a stutter because he's an irredeemable child murderer. Your idiotic decisions totally aren't going to lead us to fascism, thanks.
It's not the stutter. By now you've seen more than enough very public examples of his inability to think.
He's at least helping a whole lot of them in Israel, with our money.
What's going to lead to fascism was his inaction when people's grocery bills doubled, or when their rent increased by 80%, or doing literally nothing to try and pass a minimum wage increase.
People don't care if the candidate of change is a fascist as long as he promises prosperity.
Ah, a trump simp. Got it now.
FYI it was the hilarious bit about Biden being the reason inflation is how it is. That's tucker Carlson bullshit.
That is not what I said.
What I said was he's done nothing meaningful to change it, and that's not an opinion. That's fact.
What's fact is that the president is not a magical wizard, but in FACT the economy has improved under him so even if it were all up to him your argument doesn't work
Look up Nixon and his windfall tax.
The president is not powerless.
so the options are "powerless" and "magical wizard". what a world you live in.
Hardly.
I just gave you an example of precedent and how former presidents successfully navigated similar circumstances.
You're just content to ignore it because it's too hard for you to face the fact that Genocide Joe just doesn't give a damn about the poor and working class.
this is screaming out loud "I like Donald Trump", not fooling anyone
Or that, maybe, I don't think my tax money should be sent to a genocidal regime that is, in fact, murdering children en masse.
That you're able to process and accept this says a lot more about you than it does about me.
The actions you are taking and have announced you will continue to take, will work toward significantly increasing the misery of Palestinian people. It's not guesswork. It's just basic observation of past events.
So yeah, I don't really buy that you care about them, if your reaction is a toddler tantrum that will definitely hurt them...
That's because your side is just you.
I know.
We have no power. I'm just shouting into the void because it's the only recourse I have.
Please keep voting.
Would I recommend you vote differently than you say? Maybe, but so what. Just please vote, and encourage others to vote.
Luckily my city has excellent early voting, so it's not too inconvenient.
You are not powerless, but on Lemmy you may feel like your opinion doesn't matter due to the overwhelming liberal population.
I'm a Green Party voter.
I am powerless.
I guess I gotta appreciate the honesty??
LOL
It's not a bad thing to be a Green Party supporter. Do you not support democracy?
Oh wait, we're talking about Democrats here. They only pay lip service to Democracy for their party alone.
Green Party is good politically, but they'll never win unfortunately. So by voting Green Party you are only wasting your vote.
No, I'm wasting my vote by rubber stamping the two parties who've ruined the American experience over these last four decades.
Sounds like If you don't vote Biden you are wasting your vote. Good thing we have choices
How is lemmy overwhelmingly liberal? I'd say there are more leftists then liberals here