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submitted 6 months ago by Gork@lemm.ee to c/196

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Gonna need to be a full on poly commune at this rate if prices keep going up.

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[-] Hamartia@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I don't call for an end to America over its hundreds of years of killings, murder, rape, slavery, genocide, ecocide, innumerable hypocrisies, and corrupting hegemony. I don't come on here and sweatily proclaim that all I hope for is the fall of the American ascendency. I don't because I recognise that America like Catholics or Muslims is a vast mix of people with a wide range of lived experiences and view points. And that not all of their history is terrible. Some of it is actually commendable. And the actions of the leaders often do not line up with the majority of their people.

Yes, true, Catholic church is outdated and reactionary with way more than it's fair share bad actors but there are also hundreds of millions of Catholics, and people with Catholic backgrounds but no longer practicing, out there that are a wide mix of human beings that deserve a basic amount of respect.

You can, for clarity, include within the parameters of basic respect, to not have to endure your overgeneralising hostile invective.

[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Being American isn’t a choice but religion is. And I also would hope for America fall but the problem is that it needs to be strong to face China and Russia. It’s true that the history of America is shameful at best and outright criminal at worst. We all have our pieces of national guilts. Religion however serves nothing. It’s just a drug for the mind, to placate the brain from the raw, cruel reality of cosmos. Not for me to say that it is inherently a bad thing in itself however catholic church definitely is a bad thing in itself. Again, find better religion.

However in thinking about choices we must also consider the shameful indoctrination of children by Catholics this is the only reason why it could be said that it isn’t their choice. Because it was made for them. It’s tragic and criminal. Such practice should be prosecuted.

This is a reason I usually pity Catholics rather than hate them. Because the choice was made for them. They had no say whether they want to be indoctrinated or not. Usually it is so ingrained that even years later after they leave the church they have problems with natural bodily functions.

Is this really a hallmark of healthy organisation? No. It is nothing more than a cult.

Such organisation should be pushed to irrelevancy if we want to progress further as a civilization. Their influence must wane. Which is a process that has already started.

American fall would also be welcome however, it is currently impossible due to character of geopolitical arena. We need strong America with their tanks, aircraft carriers and nukes. We need NATO. In this way I am sort of a patriot. I believe in the power of steel to defend us from the bloodthirsty Russian dictators. Thus my heart sees american military with joy, being well aware it is the only thing between me and Putin’s rainbow genocide.