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[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Law can be different per country and when there is nothing to hand over, then there is nothing. Here is an example of Mullvad : https://mullvad.net/sv/blog/update-the-swedish-authorities-answered-our-protocol-request

[-] azalty@jlai.lu 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Except with a VPN you’re not identified by the servers you connect to, so they can safely not log any traffic and as such, law enforcement can’t ask to hand out data about a specific account because they don’t know which account did it. Same goes for logging the IP of the account, because again, they don’t know which account it is, and can’t force a service to log all users for the sake of finding one.

It’s not true for mail services however, as the email address is your login and/or is linked to a specific account, forever and exclusively.

Disroot stores your IP address so there’s already that. Didn’t check the other one.

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Except with a VPN you’re not identified by the servers you connect to, so they can safely not log any traffic and as such, law enforcement can’t ask to hand out data about a specific account because they don’t know which account did it. Same goes for logging the IP of the account, because again, they don’t know which account it is, and can’t force a service to log all users for the sake of finding one.

VPN and Tor and I guess i2p can disguise your IP address indeed.

It’s not true for mail services however, as the email address is your login and/or is linked to a specific account, forever and exclusively.

I'm not following what you mean by this ?

[-] azalty@jlai.lu 1 points 7 months ago

What I’m saying is that VPNs can legally not give out your info, while mail services can’t, because of the technical reasons I mentioned, and as such, it doesn’t make Proton any more faulty for handing out info that it would make Riseup or Disroot to do the same. At the end, they’re all legally required to comply and will do if asked to.

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