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Macklemore Attacks Joe Biden On Pro-Palestine Song "Hind's Hall"
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Just your opinion. I thought it was a great summary and relevant message with the recent protests, plus the very public message that he's not voting for Biden over this. If anything I'd call it a bit cheesy, but definitely not edgy. But Macklemore is a little cheesy so it works.
Not voting for Biden when the only other viable option is a fascist seems a bit like edge lord bullshit to me, but idk, maybe I'm out of touch with slang
Oh the fucking centrists have shown up 🥱
Oh hey grad. It's the ban evading troll.
Am I ... trolling, or am I contributing to the conversation in ways that you personally disagree with. Hmmm.
This you?
There's nothing there to really agree or disagree with lemmygrad. It's just juvenile name calling.
"Fucking centrists" isn't name-calling, it's an extremely appropriate labeling of the ideology, spoken with disdain.
And you literally called me "grad"? Which like, is it so hard to believe that leftists just exist and aren't in these random instances you've decided to hate? And even if I was, why would that matter? Like idk much about lemmygrad except apparently there are leftists there and people hate them. It's not insulting just confusing for me and embarrassing for you.
It's literally the definition of name calling grad.
Glass houses grad. Glass houses. You come in throwing stones you don't get to whine and pretend to be the victim when someone responds. This is literally what you did last time grad. And is the whole reason I call you grad, grad.
No not at all. But you only confirm it's what you are by being so upset about it grad. And for the record I don't hate them. I absolutely dislike them. They aren't leftists in any meaningful sense. They are authoritarians. And would destroy the lives of or slaughter those that disagree with them as happily as any capitalist would.
Is "centrist" insulting to you? Why do you align yourself with politics whose very basic descriptor draws out this much vitriol?
Again, I'm not insulted by you calling me grad because I don't really know much about it and only hear about it from pissed off conservative Dems/centrists. Anything they hate is bound to be kinda good lol. What I feel is more like the bemusement/pain you feel watching Michael Scott.
No. "Centrist" is not insulting to me. Because even as a leftist I can and do regularly work with and discuss things with centrists all the time. They can be as rational and reasonable as anyone else when they're being sincere.
But I think it's very deceptive, insincere and telling how you edited your own statements. Because you didn't just say centrists. What was the word you used before? It wasn't and endearing word. Definitely the sort of word someone would use in a hateful venomous way, oh yeah fucking.
Getting upset being called out over it. And then pretending to be upset or not knowing what it even is doesn't work kiddo. And now you can add the fact that you've been told about it by a social libertarian / Anarchist as well. By again grad.
Wut? Centrists define their politics around triangulating between the two parties, without regard to how one is diving headlong into fascism. I can believe a self-described leftist passionately defending moderate Democrats, but no, centrists are scum basically by definition, because their politics are half-defined by worse scum. It's not about sincerity, it's that they don't even have a functional belief system to convert. The best thing you can do to move a centrist is pull people with an actual ideology left.
American political centris? Unfortunately far too often than not that's true. But that's not necessarily what I was talking about. Politics also exists outside of america. And even then just because someone thinks of themselves as centrist. Doesn't mean that they are a horrible or bad person either. Most times when it comes to people in America they are simply ignorant and don't think much about it. And if you engage with them in good faith you can honestly have some pretty productive discussions. Something you can't get with say Marxist leninists.
Just going to offer you some advice like you did in your other reply. I don't know why you're defending another troll. Whore is a known quantity. Who will not engage in good faith and largely participate in name calling. You should not be defending them or arguing for them. This is the second account of theirs I've blocked at least. And I know they have others but they're waiting to troll on. I just haven't blocked them yet.
Did you reply just to feel better about yourself or for attention? I really don't understand your point. No one said anything to you and yet you seem so offended for something that never even applies to you. Don't take this personally, friend, but that behavior's kind of pathetic, imo
Your projection is strong I see it. You're the one who's literally added nothing to the conversation. But you're probably just another sock puppet.
Ah, the old "no u" argument! Such a classic
Anyway blocking you bc you're honestly just like, harassing me at this point? You're just mad I exist? Weird
lmao you're mad I said "fuck" okay
The online left is all sockpuppets and indoctrinated children, they should be ignored. But they're also the critical votes that cause Democrats to lose elections. But we should under no circumstances try to do anything to please them, that would be worse than losing.
Is lemm.ee the edgy radical centrist instance now? I feel like I remember there being some sort of "free speech" movement toward it a while back and now half the time someone makes a comment about how the left is the real problem, send in the National Guard, it's a lemm.ee user.
They always do.
Supporting a genocide massively unpopular with your voters when your opponent is a fascist seems a bit like establishment entitlement bullshit to me, but idk, maybe I’m out of touch with slang.
Biden knows what he needs to do to salvage his election, but the whole ideology behind this stubbornness and heavy police crackdown on protests is based on the fury Important People feel when they're told to do something by their inferiors.
Also Macklemore lives in Seattle, so it doesn't matter who he votes for.
Imma laugh when all these Never Biden goofs elect Trump again and cry when he actually Does crack down
Liberals: leftist Lenny instances are simultaneously so strong they determine the outcome of a national election yet so weak that they are fringe ideologies and nobody in real life thinks like that
Really not a good look when you continue to align more and more with fascists, as liberals always do when faced with fascism
No no. It can't be that fascists have solidarity and a good chance to win. Or that reasonable people are rightfully worried. Everyone you disagree with, or who calls you out for being self sabotaging, is a "dumb liberal". Very mature.
The poster didn't say the phrase "dumb liberal", they said that liberals are siding with fascists which they absolutely are with their unwavering support for our president funding a genocide and repeating the lies that campus protests are anti-Semitic.
Reasonable people are worried and make a plea to "please think of the women who will need abortions". Or better yet, are out organizing with empathy. But zero votes will be gained by castigating people online, especially on a topic where Biden is well outside of the Democratic mainstream.
Fascist-aligning liberals, like the account above, don't really care about results just that the people they dislike will get hurt. He's absolutely giddy at the idea that the (at worst, immature and misguided) lefties will get more jackboots when Trump wins. He was probably watching the BLM crackdowns with glee too. They have a lot in common with groups like the Proud Boys for whom politics is more about seeing power exerted on the people who annoy them than any real policies.
This account joined Lemmy 10 hours ago to call the youth brainwashed and rejoice that Trump will make the cops even more violent. Why are you defending them?
Nice straw man. What does it have to do with absolutely anything? That doesn't contradicted for an age anything I said.
The exact same thing can be said for those who are pushing for perfect over the best of what we've got. Nothing I said was an endorsement of the person above the person I replied to. Your reading that in yourself. I'll check on what you said. I don't think I upvoted or down voted them either way. But if it checks out I will definitely make sure it gets it down vote.
Maybe leave the tone policing to when they aren't correctly calling a spade a spade? They were responding to a comment directly demonstrating a fascist-aligning liberal. You didn't need to dig into their history to scope them out, the source post was directly saying the exact same thing the fascists say: "I can't wait until Trump's cops give the lefty malcontents something to really cry about".
Sometimes the worst guy you know still has a point. He's not wrong that a lot of the angst and hyperbole around Biden. He himself literally can't divest from Israel or stop the weapons all on his own. That's a Congress thing. Though he was an absolute dumbass to expedite them. Is turning a lot of you against the only better option we have. Even if it's not that much better. Regardless thank you for proving my points.
The point you think he has is you'll be happy when the hippies get punched? There wasn't a good point by a bad person there, the fascist-aligning liberalism was the whole comment.
Tell me which part of "Imma laugh when all these Never Biden goofs elect Trump again and cry when he actually Does crack down" resonated with you in particular?