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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 89 points 6 months ago

rather than doing things that would excite you to vote Blue

You mean like doubling the overtime exemption salary, reinstituting net neutrality, forcing airlines to refund cancelled flights and banning non-compete agreements in nearly all cases? Because those all happened like, last week. Not to mention larger policies like student loan forgiveness, abortion, etc. that are supported nearly exclusively by Democrats.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 41 points 6 months ago

It is hard to get the news to cover positive things that don't get people angry, so a lot of people think that the Dems aren't doing anything.

The Dems do need to learn how to promote their successes.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Don't pawn the responsibility of tankies onto an entire political apparatus.

If tankies can't think critically, they deserve all the stomps from authoritarian boots they're licking.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 5 points 6 months ago

What do tankies have to do with my comment about Dems needing to up their media game?

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Counterpoint: the dems wouldn't have implemented these changes if people weren't fucking angry at them.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 17 points 6 months ago

With Gaza, I think this is completely accurate (and even then there's a disconnect between the huge level of outrage and the tiny little concessions to humanity that the Democrats have enacted as a result under that pressure).

With most things, it's not. You can't possibly tell me that sweeping climate change legislation, creating a small amount of support in the tiny minority of people in the US who are aware enough of what's going on to care, but incurring the anger of the incredibly powerful fossil fuel lobby, was done because of cold political calculus. I think it's actually borne out of genuine concern (which makes sense -- these politicians' kids and grandkids have to live on the planet in the future too, and they don't have the Republican luxury of living in a pure fantasy-world where they think somehow that it won't impact them.)

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I think the corporate media specifically doesn't want to highlight the many small Ls they've taken.

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 16 points 6 months ago

Don't forget the rejoining the Paris climate Agreement, proposal to lower overdraft fees, and the marijuana rescheduling efforts. But yeah literally nothing good from this administration /s

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 months ago

That shit doesn't get passed when the dems feel safe. Criticising Biden (including the announcement that you wouldn't vote for him) is how democracy is supposed to work.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

That shit doesn’t get passed when the dems feel safe.

The process to properly implement these reforms done via government agencies takes years of public comments (tens of thousands of them, and you have to respond to every one!), review, etc. if you don't want their effects to just be immediately repealed like many of Trump's were.

You're allowed to criticize Biden, and I am allowed to defend him. Nobody's censoring you.

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 11 points 6 months ago

Criticizing? Absolutely.

Taking the asinine position of completely ignoring the realities of our political and electoral system and thinking that complaining misanthropically on the Internet is, somehow, a more effective means of bringing about change...that is not, in my view, how democracy is supposed to work (not saying this is what you're doing, just that there's a lot of that in this thread).

[-] BassaForte@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

If you were actually concerned with democracy functioning how it should, you would vote for Biden and not let Trump win full stop.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I can't vote in the US, genius.

And I'm not interested in upholding parliamentary democracy, since I don't think it's very democratic at all.

[-] BassaForte@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Wow, how am I not going to assume that someone commenting on the US election is not from the US? Genius.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago

Trust me: If I had the choice, I would gladly never hear a single word about US elections, ever again.

Unfortunately, I not only have to worry about your so-called country on stolen land slipping down into fascism, but you guys actively enable Israel bombing 40000 palestinians and counting.

[-] BlackSpasmodic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Good for you for being informed enough to know about all those things. They're all good things. But they don't move my needle. They're much too small. Probably nothing could compare to a genocide but these don't come anywhere near close.

Straight-up student loan forgiveness could've been huge. We bailout big companies all the time but Biden fumbled student loan forgiveness by going small. National abortion access would be great but there's no way they'll get that passed.

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