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Shouldn't most religious people in theory be excited to die because then they get to experience the afterlife? (lemmy.world)

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esp if you're one of the devout ones who think they've been really good

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[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago

I'm not worried about dying. I believe if I'm here on earth I'm here for a reason and so I'm content to be here until such time as I'm not needed anymore. I enjoy being with my family and having a cup of tea with my wife, as someone here has already mentioned.

I know there are a lot of distinctions in religion but I don't believe being "really good" is an option for humans. I believe being saved from our innate brokenness is the only way anyone could possibly go to heaven. I'm not particularly attracted to religious things or practices.

So yes, I'm excited to go be with God, but I'm not about to take matters into my own hands. It would fly in the face of humbling yourself before the Almighty.

[-] Shou@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

So god made you broken to the point you cannot be a good person. Then god punishes you for being broken?

[-] plantedworld@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I grew up in a Catholic family. This is pretty much it. It's an abusive relationship. I mean, it's fiction, but it's abusive.

[-] Shou@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

For real. I grew up in both a cult, and with eastern orthodoxy. Where they believe the soul of the child chooses the parents. This however is only perpetuated by parents telling their kid to follow their orders. "If you disagree, you shouldn't have chosen us as your family."

Religion is a tool to control people and inherently abusive.

[+] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

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[-] Shou@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I'm not responsible for some guy's actions goodness knows how long ago.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

Do you get consequences for decisions the president makes? Your Governor?

Say what you want, have to live by the decisions of your representatives everyday. You might not have even voted for them. Doesn't change things.

[-] Shou@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Yes it does. There is a difference between someone holding power over people using it in a way I don't want them to, and a person doing something a higher power doesn't agree with. Why am I being judged for an act I had nothing to do with? It's like being conviced for a crime I haven't done.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

It's less like a single act than it is like a treaty. I think Brexit is a great parallel.

Kids born today in the UK and henceforth going forward forever (unless something changes) will not enjoy the benefits of being part of the EU. They once did, but they chose to leave. The UK decided "No, we don't want to be bound by those rules."

But these new kids didn't decide that. These kids may be upset about that. They may wonder "Why am I being held responsible for actions that were taken by people (20, 50) a hundred years ago?"

But it's done. There was a relationship once, but we withdrew from it. Now we're on our own. You didn't get the protections without following the terms.

[-] Shou@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

There still is a difference. One man here made a choice that affected billions. Whereas with brexit, a majority voted for something.

It still seems morally wrong. Especially to then call people unable to be good people as a result.

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