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A few highlights that I'd like to make about this tool and its usage. Note: on a prescriptive level I'm focusing on moral matters, not legal ones.
This tool allows you to edit your content. You might have allowed other people and Reddit Inc. to use it, but it's still yours. And you should be free to do whatever you want with your content, even if it inconveniences others. And people expecting you to give up your moral rights for the sake of their own benefit, frankly, are simply entitled.
Another user here compared this with vandalism; I don't think that the comparison is good, given that vandalism targets someone else's property.
I also think that people in general are focusing too much on the short-term consequences of the usage of this tool, and too little on the long-term. Here comes some bullet points hell:
Are you all getting the picture? You might be tempted to leave your content in Reddit for the sake of other people; even then, the pros of doing so are rather small, and there are cons not often mentioned.
Regarding LLMs, frankly? I think that it's mostly a neutral point. Sure, data hoarding bots will get your content from Reddit... but they'll do it if you post here in the Fediverse, in your blog, or elsewhere. The only alternative to not feeding those bots is to not speak "in the open".
Has anyone recently checked the Reddit ToS?
It's possible that by clicking that submit button, a perpetual worldwide license was granted that included any purpose Reddit deemed worthy.
That could actually include every single version of every comment. Your first post, your ninja edit to correct your spellings, your edit update, and finally your plugin's update that wipes out your comment. All of this could be data Reddit can provide to LLM researchers.
I think the most important point is that its competent ineffective for thwarting LLMS. They will be trained using the original data.
Also, if any significant portion of users nuked their comment history it would be trivial for reddit to block the user and undo the edits.
It would be trivial from a procedure standpoint, but not from a social one. It would be really bad reputation for Reddit - "this site doesn't allow you to remove your content from it". Problematic specially in Europe.
No one cares about their reputation.
This is blatantly false, as advertisers pulling off from Twitter show. Something similar happened in Reddit a few years ago.
They do care about brand reputation. Don't lie (or worse, assume) that they don't.
Nonsense. What happened with the 3rd party apps thing? Mods were staging strikes, resigning, protesting. Pretty much worst possible case for brand rep.
They just held their ground, users continued, advertisers didn't/ don't care.
Don't labour under the illusion that some kind of people power exists.
For every 1 user that cares about this there are 100s of thousands that just plain don't care.