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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

So what exactly is their argument for the service they provide that 'justifies' the cost?

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 65 points 1 year ago

The reason is tradition.
Because they got money in turn for publishing and distributing the books in the past, now they want to continue getting exorbitant fees even though they are not providing any real value any-more.

[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 29 points 1 year ago

As I understand it, bc printing something on paper with ink has costs associated with it. Hey... wait a minute!? :-P

[-] panbroggi@feddit.it 18 points 1 year ago

The most important aspect is peer review. At least in physics, journals assign your paper to an Editor (a scientist), that may reject it directly if it is not scientific. If it is, they will send it to another scientist to read the work and (a) suggest rejection, (b) suggest accepting the work directly or (c) in the most common scenario accept the paper for publication after some revisions. The editor reads the review and the informs the author of the paper accordingly, and the story iterates until the work is fine for the reviewer. There can be more than one reviewer (a.k.a. referee). The editor is what the journal offers, together with some spell checking service before publication. Editors are payed, and referees only sometimes.

There are notable, noble exceptions known as diamond open access journals, like my favourite: the Open Journal of Astrophysics

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

The editor is what the journal offers,

In my (perhaps more limited) experience, the editor isn't an expert in the field, they're just the person who finds the volunteer reviewers who are the experts. Sometimes they find expert "guest editors" who are volunteers. Also, the final formatting / line-editing was outsourced to India.

Academic publishing is a scam. Don't volunteer for scams -- only review for open access journals / conferences.

[-] liv@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

That outsourcing can be ropey. You should always get your own line editor if you're dealing with one of the big academic publishers.

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

As far as I can tell, we're just paying for the reputation of the journal.

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