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[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

No. I’ll vote for somebody who wants to change it while in office. Surprised you would think otherwise…

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Well now I'm even more confused, no you don't think a president's going to be the one to change first past the post, but yet you want to vote for someone who will? So you're just straight up saying you're never going to vote? This makes no sense.

When you stop letting anything excuse your apathy, maybe you'll be able to start understanding that to change first past the post you have to work at the local levels first. Which I'm sure you don't do because apathetic people don't get involved in local politics passionately.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It’s a constitutional issue if you knew anything. It can happen federally like Roe/Wade or it can be at the state level like many states have done. President can push to make it happen while in office. Not during this current election year.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It's absolutely not a constitutional issue. Nowhere in the Constitution anywhere is first pass the post mentioned. And even if it were a constitutional issue that wouldn't be something the president deals with that would be a Congressional issue or more accurately a state issue.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Electoral college in constitution

President can appoint judges and can bring attention to issues so people can vote on it. Same thing with partially why Roe/Wade was overturned. Trump packed the court with conservatives. RCV can be done at the state level, but reforming the electoral college voting system can absolutely be spearheaded by a president.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Very clearly said first pass the post which you've completely abandoned even though you're the one that brought it up I see. Still pointless though because a change of the Constitution is not done by a Judiciary it's done by legislators at the national and at the state level. If you truly believe the electoral college should be abolished all the more reason you have to get involved at the local level at the state level at the county level even. Which you won't do.

Also for someone who's worried about the president's ability to point judges, you seem to be ignoring the problem with allowing a fascist to be in the office.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You’re making some incorrect assumptions about me. A true first past the post plurality vote is fine. I have no problem with that. My problem is that the system we have restricts us to the red blue duopoly. I actively participate in local and state politics, just don’t have any interest in playing the presidential game at the moment.

There will always be a “Trump” in power. I voted in the 2016 election and Trump still happened. You gotta meet them where they’re at when that happens and play some hardball. They’re gonna move the needle a lot more so you gotta do a lot of work to bring that back when you have the chance.

I’m just sharing what I’m doing. You can do whatever you want. You don’t need to try and convince me otherwise. Who are you planning on voting for?

[-] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Didn't you hear? Not participating in part of a system absolves you of any moral responsibility for anything! Ever!

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