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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

That's the thing.

Whenever somebody goes "we have to vote Biden just this once to stop Trump" I think back on the last 2 or 3 decades were the Democrat's appeal to vote have been little more than a variant of this and how it has brought things to such a point that now the only two viable candidates to POTUS are genocide lovers (Mango Moussolini vs Smooth Talker Moussolini).

It's like fighting a War by taking one hill after another whilst going in the wrong direction - sure, those who are the kind that can't see the forest because of the trees, are gonna be celebrating after they succeed in taking a hill in one of their attempts every 4 years, but meanwhile at a strategical level things keep getting worse and worse, because they've been conditioned to always assault the wrong hill.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

real politics are direct, not electoral. especially here.

that doesn't just mean violence. it means if you want infrastructure; steal AutoCAD or grab a shovel. maybe hit up some friends. worst case: if they kill you for it, and what you built was cool, they have to keep running it for a few decades or radicalize everybody who remembers you.

the fact that the powerful even wanted to do this shows nothing else will work.

[-] Azal@pawb.social 4 points 7 months ago

The trouble with every "vote" argument on the left is always about the POTUS. The Republicans had a mission for decades that not a single non-Republican would run unopposed across the entire damn country no matter how small the vote was. Is it a sheriff for some backwater town? Yup, better make sure a Republican is there. How about a superintendent?

From the ground they have worked absolutely hard to make sure they had control of as much of the government to control every vote.

To use your analogy of fighting a war. As you said they're celebrating taking a hill in an attempt in every four years. But that's because one group is only doing the charge every four years and wondering "Why are we losing?" when the other side is digging the trenches advancing every year. Yes, this is the Democrats fuckup because they certainly aren't investing in them like the Republicans but then among a supply of left wing friends I'm the one informing "Here's the important fucking local vote about abortion/taxes/who's running for x seat" and finding out often that I'm the only one who was faffed to vote.

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