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[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago

...... I mean, have you tried diet, exercise, and sleeping more? For more than a week or two?

Outside of a drama TV show where a 1 in a billion case shows up once a week, that's usually a good start.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 22 points 2 years ago

I did, it made my condition worse, thanks.

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I sincerely doubt that, but if you'd like to elaborate I'll listen.

[-] Silentiea 25 points 2 years ago

They made a top level comment about a previously-unknown heart defect. Diet and exercise doesn't fix a hole in the heart

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Did they post anything to support that claim?

Diet and exercise can fix most "holes in the heart". Even if they are the 0.01%, that doesn't change my message for every single other person.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 18 points 2 years ago

My previous misdiagnosis put me on meds that hid my symptoms and covid had my doctor's office telling us that if we had no concerns, to not come in. By the time my symptoms began to show even with the meds, my heart was the size of a football (gridiron football, not association football) and required a transplant. Any increased effort made me nearly pass out.

I get where you're coming from, MOST OF THE TIME diet and exercise are better than not. My circumstances were pretty atypical too, but lets not act like telling anyone that walks into a hospital just needs to jog their ailments away is the way to go. A lot of doctors would do well to try just a little harder, it likely would have saved me from needing to wait for another person to die to be able to continue to live.

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm very sorry that happened to you. My problem was with your phrasing. As I'm sure you know: eating better, working out, and sleeping more did not make your condition worse. I interpreted that as what you claimed.

You were a victim of malpractice and negligence, not living a more healthy life.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I know that. I just bristle at the thought of being told to lose weight instead of actually getting the help I needed. I don't ACTUALLY think that stuff made me worse off. It was mostly the look on the doctor's face when I told him I WAS working out and eating better, and he laughed in my face because I was gaining weight. Too bad I was retaining fluids... There's a lot more to the story, but I don't care to get into it.

Can you tell I'm a bit salty? Sorry for the trauma dump.

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I cannot even fathom what you've been through. There is no need to apologize.

If you want to share more, I'll listen.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Did they post anything to support that claim?

What do you want, their medical records? Their doctor's phone number?

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago

I have a PDF of all of the paperwork. I won't be sharing, of course, but I have it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

No worries, I believe you. I don't have any reason not to. I'm also dealing with major health issues, so I hope you have found solutions that work for you.

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, if someone claimed that diet, exercise, and such had actively harmed them, I would want medical records to back that up.

That wasn't what happened, and I understand that now.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Why should anyone show you their private medical records? Who do you think you are?

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Someone who claims blatant lies should absolutely show some proof to back them up. Do you agree with that statement?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Funny how you're the only one who seems to think they're lying.

And no, I don't agree that someone should provide you, a complete stranger, with private medical records. Because that would be incredibly stupid.

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, both they and I have admitted that they were lying when they claimed that.

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Now, seeing as the thing they claimed was provably false,

Do you think it's wrong for me to ask for proof when someone makes an unfounded claim?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

What part of "And no, I don’t agree that someone should provide you, a complete stranger, with private medical records. Because that would be incredibly stupid" are you not understanding?

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Okay. Since you won't listen to reason, I'll just sum up my points:

Someone claimed that eating good, working out, and sleeping more actively hurt them.

This didn't actively hurt them, and they admitted this.

Do you have any more questions?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh, no! You lack the ability to read this thread and think for yourself!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Interesting. You demand proof from someone else, but when someone asks you for it, you refuse to give it.

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You... Aren't very smart, are you?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Insulting me will not change the fact that you do not apply your own standard of proof to yourself.

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

DID you read it? Could you sum it up for me?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I will read the post where he admitted he lied when you show it to me. I see no reason to re-read the entire thread to find out whether or not he really did. I certainly don't remember him doing so.

The fact that you refuse to back up your claim suggests to me that he didn't.

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

He said he didn't think it made him worse off but his doctor did. I'm not seeing where he admitted he lied.

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

But you are surely intelligent enough to read the rest of this thread, right?

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