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[-] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 185 points 10 months ago

Think most people are more interested in what Larian is cooking up, the IP barely matters.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago

Yeah anyone apart from Larian making BG4 is basically fucked. Maybe if they wait 5-10 years and a studio with an established brand comes in, but that isn't what's going to happen.

Prior to BG3 I held BG1&2 somewhere in the top 5 games of all time. BG3 had an impossible bar to meet and they not only met it, but far surpassed it.

I'm genuinely sad at whatever BG4 releases as. It's like someone who loved Diablo 1&2 looking at Diablo 3&4. Diablo 3 was a shell of Diablo 2 and I literally just had to check if Diablo 4 was a released game. Maybe it's fun to someone, but I've completely checked out of the series.

So here's to BG4, BG:TCG, & BG:Mobile, shells of the greatness that came before them.

[-] Ilflish@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

~~Oblivion~~ Obsidian is the only other company that can hold expectations currently

[-] pory@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Obsidian's last open world game, The Outer Worlds, was best described as "whelming"

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the chuckle, this comment helped brighten my day a little!

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

It was great, just sadly felt more like a demo of a game they wished they had the funding to flesh out further.

Hopefully 2 is that game.

[-] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Obsidian hasn't made a good game in like 15 years dude. They're a has-been. I doubt they even have any of the same staff.

[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago
[-] zaemz@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Lol, pretty sure they meant Obsidian.

[-] Ilflish@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Yep. I could say it was autocorrect but more likely my brain was just not working .

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 4 points 10 months ago

I loved Diablo 2

fuck what they've done

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 44 points 10 months ago

Exactly. This headline read as "Interested investors want to throw money at someone because BG3 did so well and then demand they release a half finished product so they can meet their quarterly financial date."

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

I think people are sort of over wotc ever since the OGL fiasco, plus milking mtg for all it's worth. This is probably a result.

[-] Cyberspark@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

You'd be surprised how many people don't know about that or think everything is fine now.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

I'm in the opposite group. I don't care for Larian's games (though I wish them the best) and I was very let down when they made the latest Baldur's Gate.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 9 points 10 months ago

Don't think people should downvote you for this opinion, especially with you even being respectful about it.

I had a good time with BG3 (though I'm less high on it than most people), but at the end of the day it's clearly a Larian-game. If you didn't like the Divinity series you probably won't enjoy BG3, and if you had hoped for a BG 1&2 feel, you would probably be a bit let down.

[-] Lesrid@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

One thing I appreciate between BG3 and their Original Sin series is that the latter games felt like turn based Splatoon whereas the former has much less surface spam barrelmancy (though it is still present)

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 4 points 10 months ago

I know what you mean - and combat in D:OS2 would often devolve into pure silliness - but at the same time their proprietary systems also had more play and more interesting wrinkles to them than the 5E they were shackled to in BG3. I can't decide which I think is better really.

[-] Cyberspark@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Not sure why you're being down voted, it's a reasonable opinion to have if you don't like their games. I feel the same about the originals. I tried them and respect them a lot, but they're just not for me.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

BG3 has insane fanboys who don't accept any criticism of it. It makes it difficult to review games any more

[-] Cyberspark@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

I think a fair few people have tied their identity to products so they feel like it's a personal attack to not agree or not like something they like.

[-] Lesrid@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

The triumph of modern marketing. The company is my friend and the product is my child.

[-] yuri@pawb.social 3 points 10 months ago

Picturing someone downvoting this makes me giggle. I guess people don’t like getting read that hard lmao

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 2 points 10 months ago

That's a tale as old as time, whether it is heritage, nations, religions or products people tie their identity to.

[-] OftenWrong@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

Welcome to anything ever that groups of people enjoy lol

[-] _tezz@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Just curious, what was the let down(s) for you? I feel like they were pretty transparent about what the game was gonna be through the whole dev cycle

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I simply do not like how Larian handles combat encounters or their reliance on environmental damage/restrictions that are always against the player.

[-] _tezz@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

That's fair, unless you do some wacky stuff they do rely a lot on forcing environmental interactions, if you don't want fights to drag.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

That's not how IP holders think. Their ego ruins our fun.

[-] MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 months ago

I think Paizo would be a good collab. Personally I'd love to see Larian do something with Starfinder.

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Starfinder'd be cool, but Larian has been firmly in Fantasy for a good 10-15 years at least now, so I'd be more confident for Pathfinder than Starfinder

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