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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I've heard of jurors getting in trouble for it before, but not defendants.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

jurors can get in trouble for it? it's a bodily function and they are almost volunteers. I mean I can see them getting dismissed or maybe being asked if they are ok and to please try and pay attention, but I hope you don't mean real trouble.

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

They are entirely responsible for determining the facts of the case. The defendant can face dramatic penalties on their decision. The cannot sleep through it.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

oh. now I understand. death penalty for nodding off jurors! I won't try and get disqualified when they add that.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There are quite a few bodily functions we are expected to control in public, with real legal consequences if we can't. Falling asleep while driving, or (intentionally) dropping a deuce in the jurrybox during trial as some quick examples.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

erections? peeing your pants? farting? there are no legal consequences to any I can think of. maybe if you do them intentionally, there are indirect consequences, but we aren't talking about grabbing a pillow and setting up for a nap in the jury box here. just nodding off.

edit: aha I see you made an edit with examples. no fair

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Nod off while driving and let me know the police feel about it.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

ur just silly. No one is asking you to drive in that situation. even then, you haven't broken the law and there are no direct consequences. if you hit someone else, there are indirect legal consequences. that wasn't totally bad though, any other examples?

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Ahh, my mistake. I thought we were discussing this in good faith. I'll let you continue to be intentionally obtuse on your own now.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

sorry if that was flippant but I thought you were the one who had left good faith with your answer. agreed to agree to disagree. I stand by my original point that the juror you saw that got into trouble by nodding off was being treated badly and if they were punished it's an injustice and a reason everyone should avoid jury duty. I hope it's not real. have a good day.

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