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[-] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fair. I wish people on Lemmy could take a genuine comment for what it is and not over-interpret is as political support, as I am sure you don't support this person.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Why would anyone possibly think a person defending Trump supports him?! /s

Yeah this person totally isn't a rightwing nutjob, with gems like this in their comment history:

There's no correlation between the violent crime rate and firearms regulations in the US.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 8 months ago

Contradicting this post is not equal to supporting Trump. And yes, I know people are excited here because the same articles were written against Biden, that's an issue with both candidates.
I read their comment history, it seems there is a tendency to go against the leftist pack, but they seem rational enough, I bet you can find a valid source for them (I'm not going to source them myself).

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I read some of your comments. I'm not really interested in discussing anything with boring contrarian who defends right wingers

[-] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm not interested in discussing with people who use straw man arguments so I guess we have an agreement there.

[-] ImADifferentBird 3 points 8 months ago

Uh oh, seems we have an Enlightened Centrist™.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

The Enlightened-est

[-] MysticDaedra@fedia.io 1 points 8 months ago

Calling ~50% of the population "nutjobs" isn't particularly conducive to productive political discourse. Solely using strawman and ad hominem fallacies just make you look like a partisan hack, not a serious person.

It's totally off-topic, but I stand by what I said in that other thread. If you can show me that there is a correlation that evidences decreased violent crime and increased firearms regulation, please let me know, I'm eager to read it. FTR, I get my crime stats directly from the FBI.

I consider myself to be a classical liberal, someone who believes in the liberal values that allowed our great nation to be founded in the first place. To that end, I have no compunction calling out hypocrisy whenever I see it. Do I think Trump is a good person? Hell no. But between him and Biden, I believe that Trump makes the better president. The US and the entire World were objectively better off based on the stats under Trump than they are under Biden.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

It is absolutely a lie that 50% of the population supports trump or thinks guns have nothing to do with crime. I won't waste my time with a bad actor like you other than to say in regards to your request for a source about crime: see any country that made guns illegal. I'm truly tired as can be when it comes to dealing with your type. That is why I'm on Lemmy. Maybe you should consider facebook?

[-] MysticDaedra@fedia.io 1 points 8 months ago

I'm a "bad actor" for defending both the Constitution and for expressing an opposing viewpoint? lol, ok then.

FWIF, I don't know for sure what the percentage of the US population is that supports Trump, I just know that Trump is leading Biden slightly or is toe-to-toe with Biden in almost every single poll. I also know that according to a Gallup poll a couple of years ago, 36% of polled people say they are conservative and only 25% say they are liberal, with another 37% identifying as moderate. Considering that Trump is the moderate candidate at this point (Biden has moved consistently to the far left during his presidency), I'd say that assuming ~50% of the population supports or at least would vote for Trump based solely on policy isn't the worst reasoning. https://news.gallup.com/poll/388988/political-ideology-steady-conservatives-moderates-tie.aspx

I suppose providing sources for my claims is further proof I'm a "bad actor", eh?

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Trump is the moderate candidate at this point (Biden has moved consistently to the far left during his presidency),

Lololol

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I'm a "bad actor" for defending both the Constitution

That's rich, you fucking insurrectionist traitor

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