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submitted 2 years ago by rysiek@szmer.info to c/technology@beehaw.org

As much as there is plenty of new people joining the threadiverse, the real wave starts today, with thousands of subreddits going dark.

Existing Lemmy/Kbin instances get hammered with new user registrations and deploy different coping strategies. Some plead, some close registrations. New instances spring up.

Soon, mainstream media will discover Lemmy exists. They will probably miss Kbin entirely, and most will also be very confused about the federated nature of Lemmy. Some might be able to remember Fediverse exists.

When Kbin finally shows up on their radar, they will find it difficult to explain how it fits into the narrative they already spun. My money is on someone calling it a "fork" of Lemmy. 🤣

Eventually, as more instances start turning off registrations, and as some buckle under the load temporarily, the narrative becomes "this is why Lemmy will fail." Threadiverse will get treated like a VC-funded walled garden. Media will be flabberghasted at how "poorly" Lemmy and Kbin were able to "capture" the people wanting to migrate off of Reddit. They will complain endlessly about how hard it is to choose an instance, "confusing interface", and ask "thoughtful" questions on "how will they monetize".

Eventually, the wave subsides. Maybe Reddit reverses their silly ideas, maybe people get tired. There is a drop in active user accounts on the Threadiverse, compared to the peak of the wave, which is then taken as "proof positive" that Lemmy and Kbin could never "succeed".

What they will ignore, of course, is that by then Threadiverse is several times bigger and more active than before all the Reddit insanity. Communities stay active, people stay active, and slowly Threadiverse grows, as (just like the broader Fediverse) it is not a VC-funded startup that needs a hokey-stick growth.

It's a long-term project of making community-run platforms work. And that takes time, and effort, and love.

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[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 76 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't think Reddit will lose enough users to seriously consider backing down. But I expect the quality to degrade further, and I think this might start the slow descend of Reddit. I'm not sure if Lemmy, Kbin or Tiles will be the successors. I like Lemmy so far, but it was a journey.

[-] myself33@beehaw.org 31 points 2 years ago

i miss some reddit communities, but for a basic usage, lemmy/jerboa replaces reddit without problem.

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

Jeroba and I have some issues I haven't been able to understand. Currently the mobile page works better for me, even though I struggle with reloads pushing the content I'm about to read away.

[-] timkmz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Yea, thats been a problem for me too. Hope they fix it or there will be some solution.

[-] GrindingGears@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

I'd love to figure out how to shrink the font a bit. Right now I feel like I'm reading one of those big print books, and I don't really like it.

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

In the app? Settings, look and feel, adjust the slider

[-] GrindingGears@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

You are the hero we all want and need!! Thank you!!!

[-] Risk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Trouble is with a small font I'm now just as likely to click on the OP's profile name than the thread link.

's all just teething though.

[-] GrindingGears@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Teething for sure. I'm getting it though, and it's still way better than that dumpster fire Reddit app

[-] Running_Out_Of_Ideas@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Jerboa keeps logging me out of my account lol.

And poor Lemmur won't even recognize Beehaw.org at all at the login screen.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

I’m not sure if Lemmy, Kbin or Tiles will be the successors.

That's kind of a moot point, since as long as they can federate with each other it doesn't matter what software an individual instance runs.

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Fair, but now what I meant. I didn't mean one of them will be the successor. I mean I don't know if any of them will be.

[-] Liempong_pagong@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago

It's okay to not be a successor. In fact, I know one of those you mentioned actively rejects being treated as a Reddit alternative.

The important thing is they exist and have a sizeable footprint where people could choose to spend their online presence and contribute. This makes Reddit less of a monopoly and erodes its hold on users.

I do not want another Reddit. Seeing how bad it became. I want a community with its own flavor that is distinct from Reddit. That way, however, I might feel or whatever my mood is for that time of day. I could choose where and what culture to interact with. These instances and new forum give me the power of choice that Reddit has tried so hard to withhold from us.

[-] smithy46@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Hear hear. As time went on Reddit started to lose the magic it had in 10 years ago. When I was younger I thought Reddit had some of the smartest conversation online and I learned a lot from it. But the corporatization, endless repost bots, brain dead comments. I truly hope something new succeeds.

[-] yourstruly@dataterm.digital 4 points 2 years ago

I came today from Reddit. Think i'm here for good. This feels magical.

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah. I want something with the flexibility of Reddit and the focus on topic instead of users.

[-] realslef@fedia.io 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm not sure if Lemmy, Kbin or Tiles will be the successors.

Tiles or tildes? Did autocorrect bite you?

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

Autocorrect realized my butt is delicious.

[-] player1@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Right I mean if most power users, contributors and moderators jump ship then sure Reddit will continue to exist for years but what’s the point of it other than accessing threads from years ago.

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Watching bots argue about bullshit and clueless people interacting with them?

[-] player1@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Hey sounds like most large subs right now!

Also don’t forget the incessant regurgitation of pasta to shamelessly chase karma

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Nobody expects the Spanish ~~inquisition~~ repost!

But yeah, I know what you mean. ShallowBoob(?) was a maniac, and many others tried to achieve the same.

[-] Sovem@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

Case in point: digg still exists.

[-] latewizard@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Same, the quality of Reddit has been dropping for years but now it will be a steep decline as opposed to the gradual decrease, with exceptions to niche communites.

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