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[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 64 points 6 months ago

Inb4 lemmy supports Iran

Lots of false equivalances related to this war but being against Israel bombing an embassy in another country is not the same as supporting Iran. You don't have to choose between Israel and Iran, you have to choose between Israel and international law / human rights.

Phrasing it as "if you don't support Israel then you support Iran (or Hamas, Hezbolla etc.)" is to disregard the importance of international law and the fact that it applies to everyone.

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

This Article is about Iran bombing Israel, not anything else.

Any Comment on here going "But what about Israel bombing the Embassy" is derailing the Conversation and defending Iran.

You are allowed to be against indiscriminate Attacks without supporting the bombing of Embassies.

[-] anas@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Any Comment on here going "But what about " is derailing the Conversation and defending Iran.

this has been the zionist game forever, by the way do you condemn the genocide in Gaza?

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I do in fact condemn the warcrimes in Gaza.

And no: you're using the same tactics currently you always decry the "Zionists" using. You're seeing a article about Party A and immediately cry "but what about party B, you ~~Antimesites~~ Zionists"

You're not a lick better than them, you just root for the other team.

[-] anas@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

???

the reason for the attack is very relevant when discussing an article about the attack

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 months ago

More like seeing event B which was caused by event A and saying "check out event A." It's not whataboutism. It's literally cause and effect. Israel has promised a response to these attacks. These attacks were a response to an attack. Which part of it should be ignored?

[-] peg@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

How is retaliation for an act of war indiscriminate? Bombing an embassy isn't like accidentally parking across two spaces. It's a gross violation of international law.

Just remember that Israel started this.

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

There are strict rules about legitimate military targets. Those are to be followed. Period.

If you demand Israel follow these rules, but don't hold Iran to the same standard I don't wish to continue this conversation.

[-] jorp@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Your honor putting aside my crimes for a moment is it really justifiable to send me to jail for no reason? Remember now, we are only talking about sending me to jail we're not talking about all those things I did

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 5 points 6 months ago
[-] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

This is a deeply flawed analogy. We are not talking about the actions of Israel but the Response of Iran being illegal: targeting civilian targets, forbidden by the rules of war.

A better analogy would be: The law says a criminal should be punished with a maximum of 5 years in prison, but the judge hands out 20 years.

What the judge did was still wrong and illegal, no matter what the criminal did.

If you want to live in a world where everyone can bomb everyone, just remember why we introduced those rules and how many nations have nukes today.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 months ago

But youre still ignoring the context that it's in response to an illegal attack by Israel. If Israel isn't being held accountable then Iran knows that it won't either, in which case what's illegal have to do with it? Either that or Iran will be held accountable and Israel won't, in which case illegal isn't the issue here, rather hypocracy and favoratism.

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

So you're saying that we should hold neither accountable because they both did something, do I understand that correctly? Because that sounds like an awful solution.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

No, I'm saying Israel has not right to complain. If you punch someone in the face, you don't get to complain when they punch you back. You also shouldn't get backup for it.

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