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[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 7 months ago

I don't know, maybe it seems that you are experiencing a lot of the pains that comes with learning about self-hosting, which is fine and laudable but not at all an issue exclusive to Fediverse software.

Maybe my question is: are you trying to deploy your Lemmy for this long for the learning process, or do you just want to have a server of your own? If the latter, why not just go one of the hosting providers?

[-] ZMonster@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Look, I hear what you're saying. And no offense intended, but people like you crow about things like fediverse not being supported... All the while, these applications are not supported by their own developers. And unfortunately, not unlike the majority of my experiences with Linux issues, every time I reach out for help I'm told the same old hat story, "this isn't meant for beginners".

And the "pains that come with learning about self-hosting" are so unnecessary and in my opinion quite apparently avoidable.

"Well, did you change the port number to this number that isn't referenced anywhere in the documentation? It's pretty obvious to anyone that's been doing this for 20 years - who would be able to recognize that it's a step everyone would need to do to deploy - so there's literally no conceivable reason why that would be included...

###IN THE TUTORIAL

...Maybe you shouldn't be doing this."

[-] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 7 months ago

Look, this is software that has not even reached version 1.0. Of course it is incomplete. I totally understand your frustration, but if people are telling you "this is not for beginners", maybe it would be wise to listen to it? You still haven't answered my question: are you trying to run your own instance to learn or because you want "support the Fediverse"? If the former, it seems that you are trying to bite more than you can chew. If the latter, there are plenty of other ways to help beyond running your own instance.

[-] ZMonster@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

You still haven't answered my question

And I'm not going to. It has nothing to do with the point that I was making. It has nothing to do with the quip that I started with. I came neither here nor to you to get advice. I made a sarcastic comment that you literally just confirmed. Thank you.

And the consolidation and gatekeeping of resources to the few seems just a tad antithetical to the entire foundation of decentralization.

From join-lemmy.org:

self hostable, easy to deploy

"people" are telling me that this isn't easy, but Lemmy seems to think it is. Good luck arguing your way out of that paper bag.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 7 months ago

And the consolidation and gatekeeping of resources to the few seems

What gatekeeping? And what "few"?

According to fedidb, there are 775 Lemmy servers deployed. So you have at least a few hundred people that are not involved with the project and that have managed to deploy Lemmy. I'm among one of those, and I have access to the same resources as you did. It may not be trivial, but it certainly is within possible.

Again, sorry that you are having trouble, but there is no conspiracy here to keep you away from having your own server.

[-] ZMonster@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You:

if people are telling you "this is not for beginners", maybe it would be wise to listen to it?

Also you:

I'm among one of those

So, What gatekeeping you ask? You. And what few you say? Still you.

But don't let me be the judge on whether or not you are an insufferable prick. So take a peruse around your own post. Let's see how you fared...

😬

this post was submitted on 10 Apr 2024
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