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[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Incorrect. You had to rip that key for yourself. They never distributed it.

They settled because there's no winning for them. Even if they're correct (and they really are) it will be years of litigation... and costs.

They were forced to settle because they publicly talked about playing shit [pre-release] on discord too...

Edit: Found a typo. My bad.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The key they used to make the base engine was ripped from online, not made by them that’s the nails in the coffin right there. They also provided means to publicly available bios keys. They did distribute it, you just had to dig into discord or other means to find it, but it was there.

They were forced to settle because they publicly talked about paying shit on discord too...

So they were forced to settle because they did this thing illegally, yet you say they didn’t…? What…?

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 17 points 7 months ago

The key they used to make the base engine was ripped from online

Proof please. Since it never went to court, nothing like this would have been "found" through the process of discovery. I suspect you're just making shit up.

They also provided means to publicly available bios keys.

Nope, you had to rip your own to use the software.

They did distribute it, you just had to dig into discord or other means to find it, but it was there.

Users chatting on discord != yuzu doing it.

Nothing about Yuzu itself as a program was illegal. Period. How some of the developers talked in their Discord shows that they were using it for illegal things, which fucked them. Not the application itself.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

https://twitter.com/Zetta_330/status/1765081419687371165

Look for yourself, they used someone else’s code, it’s technically not illegal according to the CLA of GitHub , but that’s not relevant to DCMA. It requires them to reverse engineer the code for an emulator, which they didn’t do.

The dev provided the means in discord themselves, they also had a google drive with a ripped key, they also had files on discord of roms to test their gamesc which were acquired illegally.

Please tell me what they did right to claim game preservation…?

The fact that it didn’t go to discovery when other cases have is damning in itself, and you want it in your court? Okay….

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Look for yourself, they used someone else’s code, it’s technically not illegal according to the CLA of GitHub , but that’s not relevant to DCMA. It requires them to reverse engineer the code for an emulator, which they didn’t do.

Did you read the link you sent? "it's coded in an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE."

Hard to steal code when it's not the language your program is written in. And even if they did... "btw the entire basis for this claim is a reddit post from 3 years ago with the "stolen code" in question being ~50 lines of minor gui fixes" Doesn't sound like a whole lot of emulation code is in question here.

The dev provided the means in discord themselves, they also had a google drive with a ripped key, they also had files on discord of roms to test their gamesc which were acquired illegally.

Provide ANY evidence of this please. I don't participate in Discord. So just stating that they published shit there doesn't mean much to me.

Please tell me what they did right to claim game preservation…?

I don't have to. Emulation is 100% covered REGARDLESS of what they did "right" or "wrong". It's other actions that caused them to settle. Not YUZU as a program.

The fact that it didn’t go to discovery when other cases have is damning in itself, and you want it in your court? Okay….

No it doesn't. It doesn't mean a damn thing. What the fuck are you high on?

[-] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago
[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Don't know. We'll find out I suppose. I responded to a different comment of theirs. But I suspect they did.

Edit: They didn't... So they're just refusing to answer these particular points.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 7 months ago

The fact that it didn’t go to discovery when other cases have is damning in itself, and you want it in your court? Okay….

You realise that Nintendo's coffers are quite huge and they can just bleed out the Devs of yuzu if it had gone to court?

[-] msgraves@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

They were forced to settle because they pirated TOTK ahead of its actual release to allow yuzu to support it, then sold that version that supported it on patreon -> "Made money off it" in nintendo's eyes. I think it's fucking stupid that they're gone, but I'm not surprised, Nintendo happily goes after anything.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

So they used illegal keys to test their illegal emulator…….. you just agreed to everything I’ve stated.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nothing illegal was mentioned there on the emulation side. TOTK is a rom in this specific instance. A Rip of a cartridge, which considering how early it was obtained must have been ripped from a cartridge by somebody (probably on the distribution chain or even from someone inside Nintendo). The system keys didn't change to support that ROM. They were dumb and advertised support for something that they shouldn't even have which (probably) to Nintendo proves piracy by the devs as they shouldn't have been able to obtain the rom.

Nothing about this is how YUZU itself operates as a program. It's not an illegal emulator and you need to stop spouting this nonsense.

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