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Videos show Chicago police fired nearly 100 shots over 41 seconds during fatal traffic stop (apnews.com)

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Plainclothes Chicago police officers fired nearly 100 gunshots over 41 seconds during a traffic stop that left one man dead and one officer injured, according to graphic video footage a police oversight agency released Tuesday.

Five officers from a tactical unit who were in an unmarked police vehicle surrounded an SUV last month driven by Dexter Reed, allegedly for failing to wear a seatbelt. Video shows the 26-year-old Black man briefly lowering a window and then raising it and refusing to exit the vehicle as more officers arrived, yelled commands and drew weapons.

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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 6 points 2 years ago

The post description is a bit biased. Reed fired on the officers first. Without that fact, this is terrible. With it, it's terrible but understandable (to an extent).

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

You're not reading, there's no evidence he shot at all just that there was a gun recovered and a police department who for years ran an illegal blacksite interrogation prison claims he fired first.

Who to believe.. who indeed.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 7 points 2 years ago

The Civilian Office of Police Accountability said preliminary evidence showed Reed fired first, injuring an officer in the Humboldt Park neighborhood on the city’s West Side. Then four officers returned fire, shooting 96 rounds.

Understanding there is no clear footage showing he fired first, and I'm not saying I believe one way or the other, but it will be interesting to see the full set of bodycam footage. OP left this out of the overview.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Preliminary evidence which is officer testimony, they go over this.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 2 years ago

Not true. See other responses.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

There's no evidence, they say ballistics, which are collected and determined by whom? The police, is police testimony, I'm sorry you don't understand the nuances of the language used.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 2 years ago

Have you actually read any other article? Let's pick one of thousands: https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/dexter-reed-chicago-police-shooting-family/

Specifically, COPA is uncertain how the officers could have seen this seatbelt violation given their location relative to [the] vehicle and the dark tints on vehicle windows

Bad.

Body camera footage shows one officer fired at least three shots after Reed fell to the ground, but was still moving.

Real bad.

While the Reed family's attorneys did not directly address COPA's assertion that it appears Reed fired first, they suggested he feared for his life when five plainclothes officers surrounded his vehicle pointing weapons. They also said the officers never announced themselves as police during the incident.

Also bad. Read that first sentence a few times. Even the family realizes there are plenty of things wrong with what happened that deserve swift rectification without focusing on the one element there appears to be evidence from.

Do you understand what COPA is? Do you understand they are civilian, and not the police?

Another one: https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/09/us/dexter-reed-chicago-police-shooting-video?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_google

"Review of video footage and initial reports appears to confirm that Mr. Reed fired first, striking the officer and four officers returned fire,” the office [COPA] said.

I'm 100% for reform, but either you're down the echo chamber and refuse to read, or you're trolling. Either way this is the last bit of education from me.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Point to one piece of evidence in that story that is not based on testimony.

In fact every quote you've provided makes it more clear there is no evidence.

Ed: your source

It was not immediately clear from CNN’s review of bodycam footage who fired first.

The Civilian Office of Police Accountability (COPA) is an independent city agency which has the authority to investigate allegations of police officer misconduct and police shootings.[28] It can make recommendations about disciplinary action and department policy, but cannot take such action itself.[27][29] COPA was created in 2016, replacing the former Independent Police Review Authority.[29]

Tell me, if a lawsuit is successful who pays? The city does! So who has a inherent bias? The city!

You've clearly never been to Chicago or pay attention to its policing.

They don't have 4 agencies and a consent decree because they're super honest or good at their jobs.

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