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[-] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 74 points 7 months ago

The simple point is, no one forces you to use wires. Bluetooth has been a thing for decades.

But basically every (yes some exceptions) company that makes phones forced you to use wireless ones.

And in the case of Fairphone it is just simply hypocritical.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

All my phones always had headphone jacks, even though I prefer wireless and put those rubber nub dust protectors in them, so they don't get filthy. Nobody forced me to do anything. I had multiple brands. Wiko, Samsung, Honor, etc..

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You can get 3.5mm to (whatever usb port) that will as far as I know work in every phone. Just because it doesn't have a dedicated port doesn't mean you can't wire in your headphones.

I much prefer it this way, if you want to wire you can, if you don't you don't have to have an extra useless port on your device.

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Lol, bring on your down votes. I bet if you surveyed a hundred random people on the street if they really want a headphone port on your phone and are committed to using it you'd get less than ten people. It's not realistic to support every legacy hardware function on a modern device because a few tech enthusiasts want it, especially when there's a very easy way to support it.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Or the port could exist and you just don't use it, then we don't need adapters!

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

It's not just a hole, you need to reserve the space to house the inserted jack, you need to source or build the housing and build something to convert the signal to digital. That costs money and space for a feature hardly anyone uses. These resources are simply better used elsewhere.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's a very small amount of space. When it was first removed the space was still there just empty. There's phones that do exist that have SD card slots and headphone jacks. The hardware required is very very cheap, especially at scale, so cost is a non-factor. For such minimal resources, who wouldn't want the option of more features? There's plenty of features of smartphones that most people don't use, it doesn't mean we should remove them to the detriment of the people who do.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 7 months ago

You can get 3.5mm to (whatever usb port) that will as far as I know work in every phone. Just because it doesn’t have a dedicated port doesn’t mean you can’t wire in your headphones.

not if you want to charge it as well.

Lol, bring on your down votes. I bet if you surveyed a hundred random people on the street if they really want a headphone port on your phone and are committed to using it you’d get less than ten people, definitely less than 20. It’s not realistic to support every legacy hardware function on a modern device because a few tech enthusiasts want it, especially when there’s a very easy way to support it.

If you're the only option with a headphone jack that's a guaranteed 10% of the market buying your device. More if you also include other things tech enthusiasts want that are no longer widely available.

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes you can: https://a.co/d/dvX8HjP

That's the beauty of usb, it's capable of expanding to suit your needs

Simply put, if companies determined the market need for 3.5mm port was valuable enough they'd leave it on there. They want to sell product and 3.5mm is not a feature enough customers care about to justify it's existence. If you really want it, you have USB options or some phone models that support it: https://www.phonearena.com/news/Best-phones-with-a-headphone-jack-Google-Pixel-Samsung-Galaxy-LG-and-more_id124459

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago

Simply put, if companies determined the market need for 3.5mm port was valuable enough they’d leave it on there.

The reason it's not "valuable" is that they want to force people to buy expensive earbuds every year when they crap out. This is demonstrated by the fact that none of these phones that have removed it have added anything new in it's place and they've only gotten more expensive. Practically every phone on the market is just a copycat phone, camera, social media browsing device. Maybe a few have a stylus. The only thing that differentiates them is specs. My 6 year old phone has more features than anything available today and I dread finally reaching the point where my work apps stop functioning due to it's age and I have to downgrade to some garbage that can't do half the things I used to.

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

If you buy crappy headphones they might crap out every year. I've got the same pair of Jabra 65t that I bought in 2018 and they work amazing 6 years later. If Apple or Samsung or Google forced you to use their buds I'd agree with your position of being forced but they don't and saying all buds die in a year is absurd.

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

You’re supposing every tech/audio enthusiast here wants the same shitty setup as the masses? The fact is there is basically one brand still offering headphone jacks in a flagship that you can unlock … where the point of Android was all the delicious innovations of each OEM. But they saw how profitable selling branded earbuds could be so now you have next to 0 options.

[-] rainynight65@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago

Strange how I've been using wired headphones with my phones until two years ago, even though I haven't had a phone with a headphone jack since 2017...

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