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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

the Israelis are all genocidal colonialists

couching this as though it's untrue betrays that you aren't opposed to genocidal colonialism

[-] flora_explora@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lol, see what I mean by black and white thinking? Either I'm against it or for it. Nothing else imaginable. "Genocidal colonialism" is a very loaded term and I'm not sure it even applies here. And because I dare to think about why it might be something else I'm directly in favor of colonialism and genocide? Wild.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

the project of setting up Israel as a nation state is a genocidal colonialist project. dissembling about this, suggesting it was acceptable, that the occupied people should only resist within the boundaries you set, shows you aren't opposed to the genocidal colonialist project.

[-] flora_explora@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

I agree that the circumstances of the creation of the Israeli state was highly problematic. But the link to the present is not that clear cut. What do you plan to do with all the "colonialists" then? Where should they go? What kind of reasonable and feasible solution would you think of if all of the Israeli state is already defined as a genocidal colonialist project? Kill all the Jews? Or exile them? Wouldn't that be genocide, too? Or you want to dissolve the Israeli state and let everyone live peacefully together? But is this really an option with all the conflicts and how many Palestinians have been displaced?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Kill all the Jew

you keep bringing this up, but you're the only one

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

the link to the present is not that clear cut.

it's an event in living memory that has never been rectified

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

is this really an option with all the conflicts and how many Palestinians have been displaced?

seems to me the first thing to do is to tear down the wall. then we can let the palestinian people reclaim their homes.

[-] flora_explora@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

This is not really any answer to what I've asked. I'm all for bringing down that wall. But without any plan this will lead to a bloodbath on all sides. So please, what is your plan with Israel and its population if this "genocidal colonialist project" is going to be stopped.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

I don't need a plan to know what needs to be done

[-] flora_explora@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

OK OK, I see this discussion will lead nowhere. Bye

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