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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Celediel@slrpnk.net to c/meta@slrpnk.net

I just saw that lemmy.ml has pre-emptively defederated from threads. Are there any plans to do that here? I personally want nothing to do with Meta/Facebook, and I'm sure that's not an unpopular opinion around here.

edit: y'all, please pay attention to where you are when coming from all.

edit again: kbin really ought to make a post's home instance more clear.

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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I’m personally opposed to defederation in all but the most extreme circumstances. I think more people communicating, even through a questionable platform, could be a could thing. A lot of people are speculating that this is some scheme to kill the fediverse but there’s no real evidence of this yet, and frankly, I’m not convinced we’re big enough that Meta would really consider us a threat. If evidence of such a scheme does materialize, then obviously at that point defederation makes sense. But at this point, I think defederation (and denying potentially millions of people from experiencing the fediverse) solely on speculation seems like a bad idea.

I was actually thinking of suggesting a defederation policy be drafted, so that we can have clear circumstances under which we would or would not defederate. That way we can operate off of consensus rather than the whims of admins—well-intentioned as they may be. Curious what the community thinks of that idea, whatever the decision on this particular topic ends up being.

[-] Rozauhtuno 13 points 2 years ago

I'm personally opposed to defederation in all but the most extreme circumstances.

Can you define 'extreme circumstances'?

Is literal nazi propaganda extreme enough? Because you can already find it on Threads.

I was actually thinking of suggesting a defederation policy be drafted, so that we can have clear circumstances under which we would or would not defederate

That I agree with. Instances should have it layed it out clearly.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

I mean it depends on how much and how it is being managed. Unfortunately, nazi propaganda is prevalent in many societies, so I don’t think it will be possible to have a platform be completely free from it, excepting very small, isolated communities. I can find it on posters outside my house, but that clearly doesn’t reflect the views of the vast majority of people in my neighborhood. It’s here on Lemmy as well. I don’t think that alone warrants some kind of quarantine policy, if those views are being actively opposed and/or removed. If an instance is operating as a safe haven for those views to fester and spread then that may warrant defederation if it is causing serious harm to federated communities.

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