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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago

The annual pretending Democrats don't uphold systemic issues because Trump is clearly worse. 🙄

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 33 points 5 months ago

I don't think that is what this post is saying.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Well uh... That's kind of the point? They're pretending the Democrats don't have problems.

[-] Traegert@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

No and you are exactly the person this post is aimed at. It LITERALLY SHOWS DEMOCRATS have problems but trump is worse. If you vote for no one you are saying you are 100% equally okay with either trump or Biden winning. If that is your intent then you do you. But you are refraining from voting as a form of protest against Biden than that is not only not helping your cause you are actively hurting your own cause. I am flabbergasted how many supposedly intelligent people do not understand the broad ramifications of their actions

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

supposedly intelligent

Well there's your problem.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Lmao. You think his age and Israel are the only problems? Wow. Immigration, Housing, protectionist policies, and cost of living are also big problems. Not pushing to get rid of the filibuster, not even trying to appoint more SCOTUS judges to make it more representative of the country.

Dude the list goes on. This meme is blatant propaganda.

And no. Not voting for either one because you don't like either one doesn't mean anything other than that. You don't get to try to gaslight people. It also just makes us not want to vote even more.

[-] Traegert@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

I would try and correct you on your incorrect usage of "gaslighting" but I have a feeling you may have trouble understanding distinctions. Good for you for publicly announcing you're just as okay for trump being president as you are as Biden. Good luck in preferred candidate winning.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

to psychologically manipulate (a person) usually over an extended period of time so that the victim questions the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and experiences confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, and doubts concerning their own emotional or mental stability

The constant refrain of calling us Trump supporters or telling us we're just as okay with Trump very much fits the definition. Not supporting Biden does not mean we support Trump. That gaslighting is how we got into this mess in the first place.

[-] Traegert@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

That is not what the word gaslighting means, yet again. And I'm sorry but you're not REALLY so niave as to think third party is winning this election? In which case yes by your actions you are just as okay with trump as Biden. It's really not difficult to work out but apparently you have difficulty with the meaning of words.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

That's literally the Merriam Webster definition.

You're hilarious.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It clearly is the same if you're going to go as far as to let Trump win over it.

But go ahead, keep gaslighting us minorities about how we're all just genocide supporters for wanting to live more than we want you to feel morally sound in not having to write a check mark on a fucking piece of paper to protect us here in the US.

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

I don't think they are. Biden has two problems on it's side of the scale. So the meme is clearly indicating that the Democrats have problems.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Except Biden has a bit more than two problems and his supporters don't see those as problems. They're very much trying to hide his problems behind things they don't think are actually problems.

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Yes I agree that Biden has more than two problems, I also think that some of the things listed under Trump also apply to Biden, but that wasn't what you initially said. You're moving the goal post.

I think if you would have started with this you would have gotten a much better response.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Eh I'm not writing academic papers here. This is a perfectly normal clarification.

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Well, what are you trying to do here? You just trolling?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Point out this meme is in bad faith.

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Then you should attack it correctly, otherwise you are validating the meme and making yourself look like an idiot.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

No, it's reminding everyone that those issues aren't worth letting Republicans accelerate their agenda of femicide and bringing the genocide to America too.

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Oh no, Democrats have their issues, sure. Far as I can tell though, they every now and then do good, can be convinced towards reasonable action, and aren't trying to, at least openly, control everything from sex to a child's school lunch.

Is it perfect? Far from it. Though at least with them we have a chance to promote some positive change. It feels like a chance. One where we have a hand tied behind our collective backs, though a chance all the same.

this post was submitted on 04 Apr 2024
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