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They're only getting 5 years in prison. The article also says Macartney had been in prison previously. Since the US prison systems are designed for sadism and punishment, it probably did more to make the guy amenable to this kind of horror. It's also known that slaughterhouses frequently get their workers from the prison system, so it's very possible that this guy will simply have his unapproved abuses exchanged with ones that our society sanctions.
When he comes out, his mind is most likely to be more disturbed than when he went in.
And every person here who still consumes animal products is a hypocrite.
Posted from your Chinese slave labor built electronic device.
I have a Samsung device, so it's likely from Vietnam. Other than that I, like most Linux users, live on a steady computer diet of used Thinkpads.
Now that Fairphone is available in the US I will likely go for those in the future. Or maybe a Linux phone if one gets good enough. Is there evidence of unethical work practices in Samsung's supply chain?
Samsung literally builds tanks and howitzers. What the hell are you talking about? Unless they make a conscious effort about it, you are safer to assume that a company encourages unethical work practices, from mining the raw materials to selling the phone to customers.
https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=107498
https://www.defensenews.com/home/2016/07/25/india-s-l-t-samsung-team-up-for-700-million-howitzer-deal/
There's also the fact that Samsung is effectively a large chunk of the SK government. Just like how the Yakuza used to have a lot of power over elections in Japan, the government in South Korea has been effectively captured entirely by corporations in the country. Nothing happens without their say-so.
lol. Calls everyone a hypocrite but doesn’t know DICK about Samsung. Motherfucker!
keep fighting the power buddy! good work
I think there are other more modest proposals then quitting meat.
Be a part of the solution!
I've yet to see a proposal more convincing to me than just avoiding animal products altogether. Don't get me wrong, I used to enjoy things like meat, dairy and eggs, but I realized the cost far outweighed my own pleasure.
yeah all the data is out there for why its better for you, the planet, and the animals that live on it, and i find it strange to not find veganism "modest" enough. going vegan was the easiest major lifestyle change i've ever made, and beans are cheaper than meat.
the only time i have problems being vegan is when someone else makes it a problem, and for some reason people really like to respond to any mention of veganism with hostility. but also those same people love animals and hate animal abuse.
I've noticed that too lol. People generally don't like to have their beliefs challenged, especially if it's about something they enjoy doing. Hell I know I struggled with it when considering giving up animal products and dairy specifically, but I'm so glad I did!
the part i struggled with most is realizing that everyone i know just doesn't care about animals enough to stop eating their favorite sandwiches, the rest is pretty straightforward. keep on fightin the good fight
The reason people react strongly to veganism is twofold:
There are many vegans that are very "in your face," much in the same way that evangelical Christianity can be pushed too far. "You're either with me or you are a terrible person."
Some think that a vegan's decision to avoid animal products automatically means that the same vegan is passing judgement on those who still consume animal products.
Dairy and eggs don’t kill animals in a cruel way. It’s animal exploitation yes but who amongst us aren’t exploited?
I think we have fundamentally different outlooks on animal agriculture. It seems like your position may be based on the idea that animals used for milk and eggs are treated well, live long natural lives and are killed at the end of their lives when they would have died naturally.
I wish this were the case.
Animals used for milk and egg production live a small percentage of their potential lifespan. The effects on dairy cows of repeatedly being impregnated, giving birth, producing enormous quantities of milk, and going through the cycle again takes a harsh toll on their bodies. It's normal for a dairy cow to only endure 4 or 5 cycles of this before they literally cannot physically continue, at which point they're no longer profitable and are sold for slaughter. Similarly for egg-laying hens, the stress and mineral demand of ovulating multiple times a day means that they rarely live past two years. For the males of these breeds, it's even worse. Male chickens of the egg-laying breeds are mostly useless to the industry, so they are killed immediately after hatching, usually by way of an industrial macerator or gas chamber. Male calves might live to 8 months to be slaughtered for veal, but if there's no market for veal they are frequently killed immediately after birth.
Modern egg laying chickens and dairy cows are man-made breeds far removed from their natural wild counterparts. Hens trace their lineage to red jungle fowls, who naturally will have a single clutch of roughly 12 eggs once a year. Selective breeding has increased this amount to once a day, sometimes even more. The extreme pressure on their reproductive system frequently causes health issues like egg yolk peritonitis, cloacal prolapse, and osteoporosis. Similarly with modern dairy cows, bovine mastitis, udder sores and infections are common due to our selective breeding to maximize milk yields. Even otherwise healthy animals face grueling lives because they're part of a species that was selectively engineered for one purpose: profit.
Modern animal agriculture is overwhelmingly inhumane, which is why livestock animals are almost always excluded from animal abuse legislation. Ignoring the above points about how they've been selectively bred and are worked to exhaustion, investigations into egg and dairy farms have found absolutely shocking treatment. If you have the stomach for it, they're worth watching to understand the scope of animal abuse that is commonplace in our society.
You never seen an egg laid without a shell because of the stress the chicken is under huh?
Currently billions of animals are raised in atrocious conditions and slaughtered against their will, for food, every year. This alone should be reason enough to want it to end, but the problems don't end there. Most of the top causes of death in industrialized nations is the result of lifestyle diseases such heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and cancers. The main drivers of these diseases is overconsumption of animal products. In other words eating animals is the leading cause of death in humans.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56984912-the-proof-is-in-the-plants
To make it worse, food deserts in low income areas results in disproportionately higher incidences of these diseases and causes of death for black people, indigenous people, and all persons of color.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ixJ3YcmZg&pp=ygUldGhleSdyZSB0cnlpbmcgdG8ga2lsbCB1cyBkb2N1bWVudGFyeQ%3D%3D
even worse, animal agriculture is one of the worst sources of environmental destruction. It is one of the top causes of climate change, the single largest cause of deforestation, and causes rampant pollution.
https://www.surgeactivism.org/aveganworld
And again, it gets even worse. Not only is it strongly arguable that consumption of animals and their products is the cause of the covid pandemic; animal ag is also the leading cause of antibiotic resistant diseases, and if it's allowed to continue it will only be a matter of when, not if, we end up with an H5N1 pandemic - a flu that has a 50-60% death rate. This should be reason enough for governments to outright declare animal agriculture a threat to national security, and pursue strong policies to transition away from animal consumption as rapidly as possible.
https://www.surgeactivism.org/notifbutwhenbirdflu
When something is this bad, aren't modest proposals the last thing we need?
Animals are generally killed significantly younger than their natural lifespans. The short lives they live are entirely in conditions that are comparable to history's worst concentration camps. You're literally living on the rotten flesh of traumatized children.
Have you ever stopped to wonder what they want?
that chart is all lies. none of those animals have a natural lifespan that long
Source?
the vast majority of make dairy calves are brought to full weight before slaughter: 18-20 months
Everywhere I've looked says the same - cows can live 15-20 years and possibly even longer. That's significantly more life than 18-20 months.
cows can live 15 to 20 years if they have protection from predators, and weather, and disease, and access to enough nutritious food, clean water, and veterinary care.
their natural life span, being a domesticated animal, is usually about 18-20 months.
That's insane. There's nothing natural about being slaughtered against your will. Growing less profitable is not a natural cause of death. I don't know anything more disturbingly capitalist than to perceive intelligent living beings as commodities.
this assumes non-human animals have a will to live. this would require an understanding that they, themselves, might die. we have no proof of understanding personal mortality in non-human animals (though, if you have a study that shows otherwise, i would be very interested to see it). therefore, we have no reason to believe nonhuman animals have a will to live.
Their user name is MilitantVegan.
Do you genuinely think they have ever, in their entire life, been capable of keeping their nose out of other peoples business?
I'm not even vegan by myself, but saying other people's business when it's not about things people do for themselves without harming anyone but killing animals is… really weird.
Yeah, that bullshit "i'm not a vegan, I'm just gonna say vegan things" act wont pass here.
Also, I love how you are trying to claim something that a significant portion of all animal life on the planet does is "weird".
Like, maybe thats a you problem, bro.
If you're familiar with trophic levels, you would know it's literally impossible for a majority of the planet's population to be carnivorous. The population levels of species in one trophic level are limited by the population size of what they eat. Primary producers and herbivores must always outnumber omnivores and carnivores.
And when you look at the full breadth of the harms caused by humans eating animals, it clearly is an abnormal practice. Just because something is popular, doesn't mean it's normal. Doing something every day that is completely contrary to our own natures, our own wellbeing, the wellbeing of all the other intelligent beings we share this planet with, and the planet itself, is grotesque and strange in the extreme.
Homo sapien is traditionally an omnivore. GTFO with your “normal” and “contrary” arguments.
No, not really. Any ability we have to digest animal products comes at a sharp cost to our health. The majority of human evolutionary history skews more strongly toward plant-dominant lifestyles.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FNIoKmMq6cs&pp=ygUhcGFsZW9udG9sb2dpc3QgZGVidW5rcyBwYWxlbyBkaWV0
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I bet the people who ran these animal torture rings feel the same way.
my moneys on calling you a murderer, lol
and he said i was no different than the monkey rapist whose the star of the story.
Satire is dead when people like this exist as actual, genuine, serious reality.
Says the motherfucker with a Samsung phone.
As someone who consumes meat products, you are right.
Don't you love how when it's an animal they don't eat they're outraged, but animal agriculture is a-okay for no reason at all, and we're just militant vegans? Lol. Carnists.
Not condoning prison vigilante/revenge behavior, but if this guy's fellow inmates find out what he did, and that is very easy to do, he may be in for a horrible time in prison. Not sure if he will be put into a 'special-cases' prison for his own safety or whether he'll just go straight to a general public prison.
He has really bad paperwork and fellow prisoners always find out what your paperwork is as soon as you land in your new prison. Torture of animals is among the worst things one can do.
Again, I'm not condoning any of this. It's just the reality this guy faces in American prisons
Yeah, there's usually two things that a lot of people in prisons hold sacrosanct: animals and kids.