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Biden reacts to pro-Palestinian protesters: 'They have a point'
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But it doesn't go both ways.
Progressives and leftists are simultaneously "the minority" in every single policy disagreement. There is not a single example of Biden making material compromises with progressives and leftists in his entire term because the threat is always "the polls don't say that's the way to go".
So then after 4 years of being pushed aside Every. Single. Time. if Biden loses who will be blamed? Moderates? Liberals? War mongers? Nope. Those darn progressives and leftists.
Despite having zero material influence on policy we are handed 100% responsibility for every failure. It's fucking bullshit.
Dude Biden and AOC both disagree with you. He clearly has compromised with progressives and been more progressive than probably any president in 40 years.
Literally every single social and economic progressive act had come through Democrats. It may not he as fast as you want but at least it happened unlike wishful thinking.
Biden wasn't even my 3rd choice and I hear your frustrations on wishing more could be done, but it's just not feasible until we actually change the rules of the game and kick the GOP to the curb for good.
You argued to me to stop finger-wagging at progressives and focus on the problem. All I'm saying is to do the same. Stop finger-wagging at Biden and influence the polls. Influence the Jewish Americans and I promise you the second you shift their stance you'll see a reflection in the a Biden Administration's approach.
Because his team of advisors and strategists with more experience and insider polling data than you or me are doing exactly this.
NO.
I have done enough. I am walking away from a pro-corporate trash candidate, a pro-corporate trash party and all the liberal and moderate voters who are so fucking happy with pro-corporate trash.
If they want my vote then they can do the work for once in their fucking lives. If that's too much to ask of them then their precious "Democracy" must not be that important to them. I'm out. I'm voting 3rd party.
Then such a person is a hypocrite. You tell me to stop finger-wagging and then proceed to do precisely the same thing. I don't know what to say. Can't be more obvious.
YOU:
ME:
YOU:
...???
You're trying to hold progressives and leftists to a different standard than everybody else. You're insisting we have to vote for someone acting against our interests while excusing others for signaling they wouldn't vote for Biden if he did.
Fuck. That. Shit.
Your polling calculus only holds up if people like me show up to vote for Biden. So I'll change that calculus: I'm voting 3rd party.
See? Now you can go deal with the people who insist Biden keep sending weapons to Israel. It's not my problem anymore.
If progressives are smarter and more informed than everyone else, then yes I hold them to a higher standard. I'm one of them, and yes I hold myself to a higher standard than anyone else.
And in doing so, you'll doom Ukrainian women and children, as well as Palestinian women and children because of your pouting for years to come and that disgusts me. But go for it. I can't teach morality over Lemmy.
Lol that's even worse! Not only are you holding us to a different standard you're spending your time and energy lecturing people like me instead of doing the very thing you told me to do.
You go do that.