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Can somebody explain how not admitting Ukraine to NATO and ceding Crimea and the Donbas means "the end of Europe"? The alternative seems to be endless bloodshed and the complete destruction of the country.
Appeasement won't stop it. Is that what you're advocating?
Russia has had control of Crimea for a decade now. They won't care if we don't recognise it as a part of Russia, from their point of view they don't need our permission. By the time Ukraine gets Crimea back, if that ever happens, it will have been Russified for many years.
Might as well be appeasing Russia, because the wests policy of dripfeed weapons to Ukraine and hope for a collapse in Russia at some unknown point in the future has proved to be toothless so far.
Personally I have zero faith that Ukraine will ever get it's territory back as long as this status quo continues. Either we grow some balls and do something about it or concede to Russia.
If Russia wins, the next country that will experience what Ukraine is experiencing is Moldova and Taiwan. Then maybe Georgia and the Baltics.
It would be the end of the period of relative peace since the end of the Cold War in Europe.