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I don’t understand why people don’t realize that trump is also a Netanyahu ally. They’re old pals.
It’s not like trump winning over Biden would change anything about the US policy on Israel- except probably make it worse, and trump winning over Biden would definitely make things in the US and pretty much everywhere else US policy affects worse.
Everyone realizes it, but that doesn't mean people want to endorse Biden's stance on Gaza. He still needs to earn people's vote if he wants them to go out to the polls and vote for him.
No, not everyone realizes that. You wouldn't believe how many posts I've seen railing against "genocide" go on to claim that Trump would be tougher on Netanyahu. Saw one a couple days ago that even claimed that because Putin is such an ally of Iran and therefore Hamas that he'd be better for the people of Gaza. Which is just a mind fuck I can't even understand being able to type.
For those who still don't understand;
https://www.axios.com/2024/03/14/us-settler-sanctions-west-bank
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905
I would argue that progress like this is only happening because of the pressure on Biden from people saying they won't vote for him if he continues to support the genocide. The biggest change was after the uncommitted movement in some of the primaries That's why I'm okay with people saying they won't vote for him, as long as they agree to vote for him if he continues to improve.
> You wouldn’t believe how many posts I’ve seen railing against “genocide” go on to claim that Trump would be tougher on Netanyahu. Saw one a couple days ago that even claimed that because Putin is such an ally of Iran and therefore Hamas that he’d be better for the people of Gaza.
you're right: i don't believe this. can you link it?
https://lemmy.world/comment/8336943
that doesn't say what you say it said.
Did you read all the comments?
yea. everyone agrees trump is worse for palestine in that thread
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Haha they actually linked a sarcastic comment attacking a liberal line of reasoning and conflated it as a comment supporting trump. They... are beyond help and you couldn't ask for a better finish
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hey you do good work so like... keep it up!
Hey look, it's me! I can screenshot deleted comments I can still see (unless that'd get me banned)
But I don't think that user was actually serious about Trump being better for Gaza -- he was trying to set up a gotcha for a point that nobody actually made (about Trump being Putins lapdog).
Why am I not surprised it was harderian making such stupid takes?
This is like suggesting the firefighter has to earn your trust before you let them carry you out of the burning building.
As always, you can come right out and say you're supporting Biden and say that Trump is worse, and you can count on someone to ignore it and lecture anyway.
We don’t understand why Biden doesn’t stop supporting Israel.
Its like supporting Bibi would lose Biden votes, but not supporting him wont. Yet he still goes out of his way to support them.
https://www.axios.com/2024/03/14/us-settler-sanctions-west-bank
If they fully drop all support for Israel then multiple countries are likely to start war against Israel, possibly Iran and 2-3 others. That will cause the entire region to destabilize
I’m not good at detecting sarcasm in text; less so when there’s no text.
I see a performative monkey. Was that the intent?
Different viewers take different meanings from that picture. However, I would guess that someone who is extremely anti-Israel would never be captured in a photo like that. From what I know, the above is a genuine image and it is not contested that Trump visited the wall in this manner.
It’s trump. He has no real position on anything except what he thinks might make him look good. I’d bet everything I have that he doesn’t even understand the situation enough to have a cohesive position, and just figured wearing a little hat and putting his hand on the wall like other people do would play well with a group he wants to like him.
He’s like a child. He’s said so himself. This photo is a publicity shot, nothing more.
Yet, I doubt we would find the leaders of HAMAS taking a similar photo. His participation in this ritual means SOMETHING.
It means he visited during peacetime and his handlers thought this would get him more Jewish support, which he was sorely lacking due to his very public antisemitic comments in the past.
It was very transparent. There’s no deeper meaning here than that.
e: and it worked in some circles, apparently, since some people are still posting this photo to argue he’s not an obvious antisemite.