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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by tsugu@slrpnk.net to c/memes@lemmy.ml

I use the apps my friends use but it gets tiring to keep up with so many.

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[-] shrippen@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago
[-] miss_brainfarts 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Take Signal to Matrix for example. They use different encryption protocols, which means a message sent from one end has to be decrypted, and then re-encrypted with the protocol of the recipient before they can actually receive it.

So basically, your encryption is not very e2e anymore, and the fact that someone can set this up, effectively giving encryption keys to a third party without their contacts being able to do anything about it is pretty fucked.

Oh, and different TOS between different services also come into play.

So if you do this, at least tell your contacts about it, so they can make an informed decision about whether or not that's okay for them.

[-] hjpoijnerflkjn@feddit.de 12 points 9 months ago

Just self host the bridges. I mean if you trust your phone more than your server, this won't help.

[-] miss_brainfarts 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Do whatever you want, but again, make sure your contacts can make an informed decision about it.

[-] stegosaur5491@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

I bet none of my contacts made an informed decision about which chat app they are using. I don't think that this really bothers one of them. Most of them do not know, what the difference between Insta-pms and Whatsapp even is, as far as security and privacy are concerned. And from my point of view I don't know it detailed enough too. Making an informed decision about a closed source software and as a non technical person is not as easy as you may think. At least from my point of view.

[-] miss_brainfarts 4 points 9 months ago

You're hitting the nail directly on the head.

Not knowing what's going on being a bad thing is precisely my whole point

[-] owen@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Meh. For many people, software research is an impossibly high barrier for entry because of years of FANG brain rot.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

If I own the bridge, nobody but me is accessing the message.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 9 months ago

Yup, this is what I do.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They use different encryption protocols

It's worse: they use different content format.

So basically, your encryption is not very e2e anymore, and the fact that someone can set this up, effectively giving encryption keys to a third party without their contacts being able to do anything about it is pretty fucked.

Run bridge yourself. Fun fact: you can run your server without federation to only use bridges, so on your phone you would need only two instances of matrix client. Or one if you run with federation.

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