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Chat Apps (kbin.run)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by tsugu@slrpnk.net to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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I use the apps my friends use but it gets tiring to keep up with so many.

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 71 points 8 months ago

Friends don't make friends install chat apps (besides Signal)

[-] SundryTornAsunder@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 8 months ago

Not sure why you were downvoted. I've successfully made most of my friends, and my mom for that matter, talk to me on Signal.

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 26 points 8 months ago

The comment implies Signal is peak chat when it’s flawed & other than maybe onboarding, isn’t superior to alternatives—with the phone number being a pro for onboarding is a con for privacy. It still requires you have an Android or iOS primary device (fueling that duopoly). They don’t want you installing it from a safer space like F-Droid. They still by default send notification metadata to Google & Apple (websocket support exists but drains a fair amount of battery & they refuse to support UnifiedPush). They still ship/use Apple emoji on Android & Linux. It’s still a centralized system you can’t self-host. They still have that missing part of the source code (where I would assume the feds planted something). It still isn’t a good space large chats. And the Electron desktop apps are far too bloated.

[-] SundryTornAsunder@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago

And the Electron desktop apps are far too bloated.

No argument. Electron is categorically silly in its own right, lol.

They don’t want you installing it from a safer space like F-Droid.

F-Droid is by no means safe; use Droidify.

They still by default send notification metadata to Google & Apple (websocket support exists but drains a fair amount of battery & they refuse to support UnifiedPush).

Easy: use the FOSS version of Molly instead of the default Signal app.

[-] JohnDoe@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 8 months ago

Hi, could you touch on why F-Droid is less safe? Is it because they package (I think that's the term?) stuff themselves?

[-] SundryTornAsunder@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Certainly.

To answer your question: yeah, pretty much.

I got all of this information, originally, through this guy's channel (Side Of Burritos on YouTube):

It's also worth mentioning that part three of that series ended up directly inspiring another project called Obtanium, which he then did a video on here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiN37bn0OE8