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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

In the popular imagination of many Americans, particularly those on the left side of the political spectrum, the typical MAGA supporter is a rural resident who hates Black and Brown people, loathes liberals, loves gods and guns, believes in myriad conspiracy theories, has little faith in democracy, and is willing to use violence to achieve their goals, as thousands did on Jan. 6.

According to a new book, White Rural Rage: The Threat to American Democracy, these aren’t hurtful, elitist stereotypes by Acela Corridor denizens and bubble-dwelling liberals… they’re facts.

The authors, Tom Schaller, a professor at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, and Paul Waldman, a former columnist at The Washington Post, persuasively argue that most of the negative stereotypes liberals hold about rural Americans are actually true.

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[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

The GOP has shown, and proven, they will use any and all means necessary, including violence, to gain power. This isn't theoretical anymore.

I'm so tired of my family members and other people that identify as "centralist" saying that both sides are bad.

No....only one side has used violence to overthrow an election. And that side's political leadership said it was "normal political discourse".

If both sides are the same, then you should be upset that "both sides" are violent.

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well, both sides are bad. Your argument is Trump is far worse. Which as an American you should feel that way. Because Trump would be fucking horrible for America. But if you were Palestinian, you'd definitely prefer Trump as he might pull support from Israel.

Thus, the problem today isn't that there is a good guy, it's choosing which genocide you support. Do you support the genocide of Palestinians or Ukrainians. Either way, you get to vote for genocide. Clearly the US is a shining example of democracy.

*Edit: Those who are wondering why Trump would support Palestine, it's simple, he's a Russian puppet. It serves him to switch sides to get more money from Russia. Obviously, Trump wouldn't do something that doesn't benefit him, but when you're half a billion dollars in the hole, uncle Putin is going to come to save the day. If Trump wins of course.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

Half the GOP wants to turn Gaza to glass. You can't seriously think Trump would be better for Palestinians.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Since when did anyone day that? Stop shutting down any criticism of Biden. We have the right to be angry

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

if you were Palestinian, you'd definitely prefer Trump

From OP

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/08/us/politics/israel-republican-candidates-debate.html

GOP on Gaza. Glass may be a slight exaggeration, but they are 100% behind Israel.

There are valid criticisms of Biden. But trying to claim the GOP would be better for Palestine is horrendously naive at best.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

But if you were Palestinian, you’d definitely prefer Trump as he might pull support from Israel.

That's in the comment they were replying to.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 33 points 11 months ago

what universe would trump help anyone but himself? lmfaooo

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

I would like to know what DC Elseworlds dimension you're talking about when you say Trump and the GOP would be an improvement or preferable to the Palestinians. There's literally no evidence of that and decades of evidence, statements, and policies to the contrary.

Biden is trying to play politics, sidestep dealing with a genocide, and avoid trying to change the US stance with Israel. It's a shit position he needs to change. He's also receiving a ton of push back from within his own party and base.

Trump fully supports the genocide, the entire party he represents supports it, and would be glad to have Palestine wiped from the map. How anyone can say that Trump could be perceived as an improvement in any way is beyond me.

[-] bababatman@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He's just stirring. Everyone knows Trump doesn't give a damn about the Palestanis. And that bullshit about him being on the take from Russia. These are all neocon talking points. Maybe he's saying Trump would be pro Pal to chip away at him with the pro Israel nutters who are practically the most lowerful lobby in Washington.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Firstly who cares who a Palestinian thinks about an American presidential election? Next Why on earth would you imagine that Trump would withdraw "support" from Israel. Our support is mostly selling them arms. He supports Israel. He supports their actions.

[-] bababatman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

You're as nuts as the poor country hocms being deride here.

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