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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 147 points 8 months ago

No they don’t. They want socialism. Or democratic socialism.

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago

The fuck is safety capitalism? Is it just some bullshit word for people who don't want to say socialism? Fuck, if that's what it takes for people to accept socialism then they can call it whatever the fuck they want.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago

Social democracy isn't sexy enough of a word I suppose. It would be capitalism but with a safety net

[-] tillimarleen@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

Also, it didn’t work out so well

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

Out of all countries, social democratic Nordic countries are probably doing the best. Pretty good going imo.

[-] tillimarleen@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago

also looking at those countries we can see it isn’t a permanent fix though. Capitalists don’t stop fighting and will be successful in the long run

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean that's going to be the same for every country and every solution.

I'm not saying the work is done or that Nordic countries are anywhere near perfect or anything. Just that considering how others are doing, social democracy at least in the Nordic countries has done really well imo.

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

How much of their wealth is colonial wealth brought back by their ancestors?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Very little? None of them have been big colonial countries (Denmark was the biggest and they were a pretty small player) and Finland was itself a colonized country. Not sure if Iceland counts as a colonized country since I don't think there lived anyone there beforehand.

[-] root_beer@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago

Hm, Africa, the Caribbean, Indochina, all bloodily plundered by, lessee here… ah yes, the people of the Nordic countries

[yes I know nobody is innocent and the Sami would have some words but come the fuck on now]

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 37 points 8 months ago

Or just basic equality ... more specifically WEALTH EQUALITY

to remove the power of the wealthy to get even more wealthy by exploiting everyone faster

And to give more power to those with little or no money and give them a chance to gain a bit of wealth.

Honestly if we just created a civilization where we spread the money around a little more equally, we'd have less psychopaths controlling the world and more people wanting to cooperate in making things better.

It wouldn't create a utopia because we're too complicated to be happy with one another but it would make our situation more tolerable and manageable.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago

So, socialism.

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