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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today to c/casualconversation@lemmy.world

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4433

Should i repost this to any other /c/'s meant for this kind of things ?

EDIT: In case anyone don't understand what this is it is an issue raised by someone on lemmy git that when an account is deleted or banned it should also delete the data the data posted by the user. And one of the main dev nutomic is blowing it of like it won't affect me and maltfield is remainding him that it is illegal under the EU law and it also affects lemmy and moreover it is not ethical or moral . And i thought that was what lemmy was built on privacy, ethics and morals now i am dissapointed.

EDIT : For everyone saying there is no way i am not really ap roggrammer or anything but couldn't this work :

They could just roll it out on a new version and i think most instances won't mod it to remove that maybe some oddball ones will but not most. I know saved copies will be there but who cares no one is saving my 1000 comments but that is not the case with this .

It is copy pasted from one of my replies.

EDIT: Also it is not my intention to point finger to lemmy devs and i can differentiate their political stance and their work my only intention was to see that if this post gained enough traction they will reply or fix the issue.

EDIT : Relevant comment from @NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de about what if other instance don't delete your data.

So maybe those instances are breaking the law, but Lemmy by default should comply. You could say the exact same thing about any social media - scrapers can and do archive everything they can - but that doesn’t absolve the original platforms (e.g. Twitter) from having to follow the law.

EDIT : As just a person i can't do anything about it but i am certain if everybody pitch in the lemmy devs will listen and even though everyone seems to hate lemmy devs political stance i can differentiate with politics and their work and i find @Dessalines@lemmy.ml to be very responsive so i am gonna mention him and see what he thinks about it instead of trashing lemmy devs on speculation (i don't know nutomic's id) even though i don't agree wuth nutomic's response in this case i don't share the views of many people in the comments and don't associate this post with them.

EDIT : I just want an option to purge my data when deleting an account that you can enable or disable.

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[-] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 4 points 8 months ago

I don't understand why won't they because i pointed it out ? Also it was not treated as a bug by nutomic and i think it is more of a missing feature .also what reasons ?

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 19 points 8 months ago

you triggered the spite flag.

people are people, these people have this project theyre doin and their priorities dont match yours. it happens.

how do you get someone to fix an issue they dont think is a priority? that can be touchy, but here i would prolly not go rolling in with big labels like legal and gdpr. maybe a lighter touch with references to moderating spam/unwanted images. i dunno.. nice people can move mountains, and they arent doing the lifting.

at the heart of the matter, you just wanted a simple call to delete images that need to go with the account.

[-] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 6 points 8 months ago

you triggered the spite flag.

What is a spite flag ? If it is what i think it is it certainly was not my goal i thought if the post gained some traction the devs will act on it .

[-] m_randall@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

I apologize but I’ll be blunt - you went way over the top with your comment.

The guy is trying to triage some tickets, made a reasonable guess at policy and was greeted by a dissertation and accusations. You then double down by posting here like there’s cause for some huge alarm. I’m a fairly big privacy advocate and even I was rolling my eyes. These type of comments make working in open source not enjoyable.

Unsolicited advice - Take a deep breath, have reasonable conversations with people building and maintaining software, and don’t take every small offhanded comment as the sky falling.

[-] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Do i sound angry because i certainly am not angry. If that's how it read i am sorry.

[-] m_randall@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Not angry no. Just don’t be so quick to judge a comment made off hand by a developer triaging tickets. Bolded text and jumping to conclusions that devs don’t care helps no one. Attempt to educate instead. Not everything has to be internet outrage.

And good on you for being introspective.

[-] blargerer@kbin.social 17 points 8 months ago

As a dev, I'll generally try and act on things in the order I think is best, (Or I'm told is best in projects I'm not heading) but someone being annoying about a ticket in a foss project is easily the quickest way to get me to put an issue towards the bottom of whatever priority stack its in.

[-] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 3 points 8 months ago

So should i delete the post ?

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

In my opinion, no, but you absolutely should say that you might have overreacted and apologize for being a bit aggressive, but say that this still matters a lot and you are worried.

Note, I really didn't read any context other than the image in the OP.

[-] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 6 points 8 months ago

If you have read nothing your opinion is invalid.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 8 months ago

My advice was just to express your concern in a calm and friendly way. If you're being too aggressive, anyone will automatically become defensive and won't take you seriously - that's what's happening. If you want to have any chance for this to be addressed, you have to make it clear that you're on their side, not an enemy.

I mean, look at this: "If you have read nothing your opinion is invalid" - do you see how aggressive this sounds? "Your opinion is invalid", that's just hurtful, you've basically made yourself my enemy. But I'm not your enemy, I'm on your side. You even quoted something I said in the OP.

It's not just what you say, it's how you say it.

[-] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 8 months ago

I mean, look at this: “If you have read nothing your opinion is invalid” - do you see how aggressive this sounds? “Your opinion is invalid”, that’s just hurtful, you’ve basically made yourself my enemy.

OP is known to be quite agressive in their communication, recently created some drama at !lemmyapps@lemmy.world due to this

[-] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah well i am glad we can agree in some things and disagree in others as it should be .

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 8 months ago

its the part where a human being gets annoyed with another human being thereby marking them from any future optional endeavors

ie, annoying people get ignored.

[-] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As i said it is not my goal but if they consider it like that instead of raising a problem . Oh well what can you do about it.

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