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submitted 8 months ago by Squire1039@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world

This means:

  • Downloading or updating the Assistant app now gives you Gemini instead.
  • You can switch back to Assistant in the Gemini app settings.
  • This might be Google's first step towards replacing Assistant completely with Gemini.
  • Some users are unaware of the switch and see two Gemini apps on their phones.

Overall, this may suggest Google is phasing out Assistant and transitioning users to the newer Gemini AI technology.

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[-] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 42 points 8 months ago

yay, more nonsense added to stock android (degoogle now)

[-] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 17 points 8 months ago

After being on Graphene for the past 2 years,I decided to reinstall with no google at all,since my bank app now works without any google services dependencies.

hooray for me,I'm finally free and can profit from multiuser installed sandboxed services in another user profile if needed.

Glad to be out of this downward spiral.

[-] krimson@feddit.nl 2 points 8 months ago

What do you mean exactly by “no google at all”? How do you get rid of it of not using Graphene (I know google pay doesn’t work with that, which is a big showstopper for me). Looking for alternatives :)

[-] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

sorry,I realized now I didn't mention what I reinstalled and it's still Graphene,but with no Google services framework installed. Pure stock Graphene with only their apps.

[-] krimson@feddit.nl 2 points 8 months ago

Nice! But can you pay wirelessly with your banking app?

[-] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

I can. They have their own payment app.

[-] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Sorry, does it mean that you can use NFC payments with your card anywhere, as it is with G pay/wallet?

[-] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 months ago

It does. It's not without flaws,but 80% of the time it works fine (it has a bug where it loses configured card when switching between multi users - so that's painful,but it's a tinfoil level choice on my part).

Most banks provide their own payment apps to use with NFC payments,but I agree Google Pay is by far better and works perfectly out of the box. But it's google. Next ad would be related to some of your purchase history,so your data is shamelessly farmed.

[-] TurtleTourParty@midwest.social 1 points 8 months ago

Since GrapheneOS added eSIM support withput google I'm tempted to try to remove Play Services from my installation. How do you find out which apps require Play Services?

[-] nolight@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This might be what you are looking for.

[-] xorollo@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I need a degoogle wiki to all me through all the things I can do to degoogle and what conveniences I might loose and potential workarounds for them. E.g. I spent a few hours getting rid of chrome, but then found out that if I want to use maps from my home screen, I can't use the search bar and I need another button on my homescreen. Also, apparently I use the images tab on Google often, and ddg doesn't have an images filter.

So anyway, without good replacements for my typical workflow, I end up just adding inconvenience and still falling back on the old workflows when I can't figure out how to get what I need degoogled.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Flash Lineage or DivestOS, then add non-google apps as needed.

Install GApps into a different user profile (pretty sure it's Lineage that works this way now, may be DivestOS).

OK, that's not for everyone. Start with the Universal Android Debloat Utility

It's really good at showing what you can safely disable, and is easy to re-enable stuff if you have problems. I've only ever had issues from disabling stuff listed as problematic.

I don't know of a good list like you're describing - your chrome issue was likely because you disabled the rendering engine, and not just chrome. Android needs a web rendering engine (the default is chrome), which can be replaced.

Edit: Another commenter linked to this list

[-] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 6 points 8 months ago

I can't wait for home assistant assist to be good enough to replace Gemini as a assistant. Without the need for an llm

[-] eodur@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I've already replaced It with Home Assistant. Wake words are still shaky, but everything else is at least as good if you're willing to configure it. At least for my use cases.

[-] shiftymccool@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Are you able to control phone functions with assist? I don't use it mainly because I set voice timers a lot and wasn't able to find a way to do it with assist.

[-] eodur@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

What phone functions are you interested in? In theory if you can control it from HA you can control it from Assist. Sometimes it requires a bit more elbow grease though. I don't use timers much, so I haven't tried that. I don't see why you couldn't create a custom sentence and intent for it though.

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