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[-] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

There's a middle ground, isn't there? Like there are people out there that won't get better without forced intervention. It's not electroshock or nothing, we have more knowledge about proper humane treatment now.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The middle ground is give them homes and counseling. Not give people an easy way to shove the problem out of sight while creating another private prison industry.

Not all homeless are mentally ill. Asylums are not a place for people without homes. The notion that every person living on the street has something wrong with them that will fix their homelessness if you treat it is absurd, dangerous, and insulting.

we have more knowledge about proper humane treatment now.

They thought what they were doing at the time was proper and humane, too. Homosexuality was classified as a mental illness until 1973. Conversion therapy is still a thing. How many modern-day therapists do you think would try to "treat" a homeless trans person who winds up in their asylum?

[-] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

That's fair. I do also believe in just giving people homes and therapy. I also think that there are people who need more help than just that.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

There are, absolutely, but that's something you could say about both housed and unhoused. Those concerns should be kept separated. Conflating mental illness with homelessness just causes stigma and gives people an excuse to pretend like the cause, and thus solution, lies within the individuals who end up homeless rather than how society is structured and governed.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

In Europe they have sanitariums which I think can help keep people safe without them being prisoners.

[-] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Locally there is just social safety net after safety net. If you talk to any homeless that are left over, they have moral differences and reject the help or care, or they are not homeless just addicted and need the extra money from begging to pay for more highs. They go back to their managed group home for dinner and lodging.

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